Sinn Fein - Populism and Partionism

[tallback]

@glasagusban

Interesting. I think a crisis promotes unity. It did even for the current caretakers. They got quite a bounce in support. In the fullness of time when it is seen that FG didn’t really handle this whole crisis very well, and when we are deciding what to prioritise next, will people go back to FG or look to an alternative? I think the case for the alternative can possibly be made even stronger.

Yeah maybe. The notion that the alternative is this happy-clappy group who’ll all work together is a false narrative too though imho. It would be fascinating to watch them try

[Tim_Riggins]

@glasagusban

FGs record on the economy is a farce. They can’t control current expenditure and the reason for that is their own policies.

What spending did you not like?

[Julio_Geordio]

Fellas talking about a right wing coalition Leo’s giving away a free €350 a week ffs. The shinners wouldn’t have dared to dream of it

[Tim_Riggins]

@TheBlackSpot

Thanks. @Tim_Riggins wouldn’t answer the question. I actually thought that it wasn’t until 1949 or thereabouts. However, it makes no difference as it was those who betrayed their compatriots in the North who renamed one part of the island. Some of us reject that renaming.

Now now, you could have come straight out and said that you reject the name of this country without all of this faffing about.

[glasagusban]

@tallback

The notion that the alternative is this happy-clappy group who’ll all work together is a false narrative too though imho. It would be fascinating to watch them try

Who is putting this happy clappy false narrative out there? This is the first I’ve heard of it. Could it be that this is another FG cheerleader jibe at the dreaded “the left”? “It would be fascinating to watch them try” is a bit condescending isn’t it? How well is varadkar doing at building cross party consensus and buy in? His manner doesn’t suggest he’s the greatest at it but perhaps I missed something.

[Tim_Riggins]

Well he led a minority coalition for several years with a lot of Independents involved. Now he is negotiating a 3 party coalition.

I reckon that’s a better track record on that front, tbh.

[Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy]

It’s been fascinating watching FG pour accelerant over the housing crisis and build the world’s most expensive hospital, have a couple of justice ministers resign in disgrace and another couple of their TDs drumming up the compo culture that’s rife in the state.

[myboyblue]

@Thomas_Brady

Varadkar/FG have had a bit of luck with Brexit and Covid … Not that they wished them on, but they have been able to hide behind them and play up to the gallery. In the one window where they couldnt, the last election, they were given a kicking.

When their country needed them, they stood out front and centre in front of two massive crises.

[BruidheanChaorthainn]

He’s in charge of a police state. It’s the Sinn Fein dream.

[tallback]

@glasagusban

@tallback

The notion that the alternative is this happy-clappy group who’ll all work together is a false narrative too though imho. It would be fascinating to watch them try

Who is putting this happy clappy false narrative out there? This is the first I’ve heard of it. Could it be that this is another FG cheerleader jibe at the dreaded “the left”? “It would be fascinating to watch them try” is a bit condescending isn’t it? How well is varadkar doing at building cross party consensus and buy in? His manner doesn’t suggest he’s the greatest at it but perhaps I missed something.

Happy Clappy is my words but the notion of a broad left government (i.e pretty much every party except FF and FG) has been widely advanced both by the parties themselves and others. I doubt if you’ve missed it.

Varadkar and FG are shit in your opinion so you don’t need to worry about them in this discussion. Are you confident a government of the left, led by SF and including SD, Lab, Greens and AAA-PBP is viable?

[glasagusban]

Of course not, the numbers aren’t there for it.

[tallback]

@glasagusban

Of course not, the numbers aren’t there for it.

Not now they aren’t but it is plausible that in a further election they would get low eighties. They would need all those parties though. In that scenario do you think it is viable?

[TheBlackSpot]

@Tim_Riggins

you could have come straight out and said that you reject the name of this country

I don’t reject the name of the country. It’s the Free State.

[Ashman]

A lot more things free up your side kiddo

[BruidheanChaorthainn]

I caught a fuse few fishes here over the last twelve hours

[TheBlackSpot]

@Ashman

A lot more things free up your side kiddo

Yes indeed. There’s something very ironic about that name.

[Tim_Riggins]

The name of the country is Ireland.

[Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy]

The Free State.

The name of the island is Ireland.

[Tim_Riggins]

Here you go guys, all in the Constitution of Ireland

The end

[TheBlackSpot]

@Tim_Riggins

The name of the country is Ireland.

I reject the redesignation by traitors of the Free State to Ireland. The name of the part of the country comprising 26 of 32 counties is the Free State.