Sorry but this has little to do with your claims that they will need to lockdown harder and for longer, there no evidence of that.
1,500 deaths is not fantastic but it is not near the catastrophe suggested- not even close. The idea that you fear for them now because look at Belgium 6 weeks ago locking down does not pass the smell test. There is an incubation period for this virus but it is going to be clear in 6 weeks whether you will be at the same level. Also, as pointed out over and over again, we need to see the real final death tolls when all of this is said and done.
And Sweden have introduced measures, just not as hard as other places. Some places have been a lot more draconian than Ireland even, âlockdownâ is a relative term.
We are looking now at reopening schools but they are petrified to make a decision so will wait and see.
there is no evidence for that you sap. Thatâs an opinion. OPINION.
I fear for them because they clearly havenât been testing enough, they havenât locked down like their neigbours and they are going for an approach other people have abandoned weeks ago.
I think we will look back on this and realize an early short lockdown then social distancing guidelines, hygiene and masks would have been the most balanced approach. Along with very strict control in nursing homes, care homes and hospitals. Easy to say now I know but we had enough information in early February, as in the high R0 and death rates among the elderly in Wuhan.
Failing to act early is a huge stain on all western governments and has resulted in widespread unemployment and destruction of small businesses far worse than 2009. Hopefully the opening up will be managed a bit better.
I think the biggest things to come out of it will be focus on health care capacity, also on maintainable testing and tracing processes and the focus on ramping these up quickly on demand. Thereâll be a big focus on being pandemic ready in the future, to try and mitigate against even short lockdowns. Test/Trace/Isolate
The opening up is going to be really difficult, opening up locally is manageable, but how do you coordinate it between countries, if one place is still doing poorly and others are opening up, are you going to have travel bans within Europe or within the United States between two states for example?
The biggest thing that needs to come out of this is total transparency from all countries when a new pathogen
appears. Something that was agreed after SARS in 2003 but made no difference when the time came.
Our country. There is clear evidence that our hospitalisation and ICUs are dropping or stable. We have some of the highest testing stats in the world. We have expanded ICU capacity which hasnât been needed thankfully. We might not be all the way there on what the authorities want, but where is our roadmap? Why is Simon Harris just musing in the SINDO? Sports organisations and pubs have come out now on their worries over his idle statements. People and industries want and actual plan in place. Harris is dipping his toe in the water on opening up as he is terrified of being blamed- other countries have published their roadmaps. The EU have made suggestions, Iâd like to see some sort of plan from here.
What is your opinion based on on Sweden? Youâve latched onto testing now as your saving grace. What about ICUs? Hospital admissions? Previously you were going on about deaths with them and people demanding a lockdown.
I mean youâve said on here theyâve done ânothingâ, which isnât true. Itâs weeks and weeks now since the apocalyptic scenes in Italy and the suggestions other places might get that way. It looks like weâve avoided it, but it also looks like theyâve avoided it in Sweden. Just going on about a âfearâ there means nothing.
Over and over youâve just cherry picked one stat and ran with it without looking at other variables. The 200 deaths as a takeoff point was another. Itâs bizarre and you just default to calling people names when it is debated.
Accusing someone of racism is a serious charge which needs back up, and you have none. Any good things China has done (which is debatable, PPE thatâs useless?) are outweighed by the fact they covered up and lied about this outbreak for a month. If they were interested in global health and preventing a pandemic, they would have asked for help in mid December. Instead they were still saying in late January there was no evidence of human to human transmission, which we know was utter bullshit.
It doesnât matter what Trump wants, or doesnât want, his is one branch of government subject to checks and balances, and subject to the will of the people in November. To compare the US with communist China is simply delusional stuff, exposing you as a Sidney lite, not a great look.
America has checks and balances which trump is looking to undermine and sabotage and you call him a joker and a clown. Trump lied as much as China did at the start of this. He praised Chinaâs transparency, he called the virus a hoaxâŚ
One lie is evil and one is a joke. Square that circle
