My memory of my school is of everything being kicked on down the line. A pretty shit culture. Older students donāt have to be given carte blanche to bate younger younger ones but being encouraged to police and prevent bullying and stand up for weaker kids would have all kinds of positive effects, to my uneducated eye.
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I can guarantee you that 99% would have reacted just as you did. Violence should always be a last resort, and used primarily to escape an acute or ongoing situation.
Bullies are usually thugs rather than cowards. They do prefer an easy target, but it may well take a few retaliations (and shipping a few beatings) before they move on. I think of it as like a nettle. You could pull it out of the ground at your leisure, but if you know itās going to sting, youāll pull up something else instead.
Hardest man I ever knew said he only ever hit someone to escape a situation.
Run, always run away, he said, unless youāre surrounded, then hit whoever is between you and escape hard as you can, and then run.
Any fight I was ever in, I felt worse if I won than if I lost. Fighting isnāt in some folk, or itās a lot further from the surface at least.
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That goes on though buddy system and mentoring but you canāt have a nod and wink culture allowing lads to take it upon themselves to stamp out bullying. They dont want the responsibility and its not their place.
Systems up above help to identify cases of bullying. School needs to step up to plate then.
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The majority of people here if theyāre honest were both bullied and did the bullying themselves at some stage in their youth ā¦
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This is the conversation we need to have. @PasqualePaoli our only honest poster.
@Perez2017 thatās one of the worst stories Iāve heard. What a thing to say to a wee fella. Was this cunt very well connected with the club hierarchy?
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That is a fair assessment. I know I would have taken the piss out of one lad in particular on the bus home, more slagging than physical, but it still wasnāt right. I did it because I got away with it I suppose. That and one other bloke who whenever I see him, he salutes me, but probably thinks Iām a prick. It was more ribbing him because of his weight, nothing physical, but still wrong to do.
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Did you bone her afterwards ?
I was a f**ker for slagging in secondary school. Iād say thereās a few lads from then who would have called it bullying. I even used to take piss out of Paschal Donoghue and his lisp and he was 3 years ahead of me.
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Nah, her kid threatened to bate me
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Slagging within your own cohort of pals is fine. Slagging those outside, not so fine. One ladās banter is another ladās bullying.
Itās a minefield. All you can do is try and develop empathy in young people. Easier said than done.
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Cheers for that pal Iāll look forward to reading that later now. I love reading bits of gossip.
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If your child is being severely hurt you really havenāt much more to lose really have you?
Lads like @Fagan_ODowd wouldnāt know what the love for your own would drive you to so will farm cheap likes off here.
Your livelihood and your liberty.
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rather that than lose my child
Well a lot of people have other dependants and responsibilities that they need to take into account before flying off the handle.
Iām not advocating it. Iām relating what happened in this particular persons situation, he felt he had no other choice because the school were doing fuck all and his young lad was in a very bad way over it. He took the risk and it paid off.
You donāt have to be such a prick about it, Uncle Fester
I was subjected to a bit of a pile on here a while back, it was nasty business but I was strong enough to move above the bullying. Iād imagine others may not be so strong.
Look out for yourselves, and each other.
Peace and love guys.
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You also handed out some of the nastiest stuff ever written on here to some posters. Bizarre stuff.
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Peace and love my friend. I forgive those who trespass against us.
Yeah, this kind of stuff, but it wouldnāt have been friends. I would have known them, but kind fell in with the baying crowd.