Suicide

[ciarancareyshurlingarmy]

Courthouse is a Na Piarsaigh pub?

[Corksfinedtboy]

No warning signs?
That’s hard

[Corksfinedtboy]

No courthouse tavern
Opposite courthouse
Became Baileys
Then something else
Opposite the side entrance to the courthouse

[Phil_Leotardo]

Monaleen direction himself? About 11 - 12 years ago? Sad story

[gilgamboa]

@Corksfinedtboy

No courthouse tavern
Opposite courthouse
Became Baileys
Then something else
Opposite the side entrance to the courthouse

Courthouse is always the courthouse.was Nestor’s before the bailey

[ciarancareyshurlingarmy]

Correct as far as I know. Also a UCC gaa pub

[gilgamboa]

@ciarancareyshurlingarmy

Correct as far as I know. Also a UCC gaa pub

They are all GAA pubs along there…were owned by kingston and o Rourke when I was in college 25 years ago

[Cheasty]

@LionelRitchie

Years and years earlier this pal had asked “if you were going to kill yourself, how would you do it?” He himself answered ‘in front of a train’ so obviously had it in his head.

Was told how selfish it would be on, amongst others, the train driver. Having to deal with something like that just because he going to do a days work, impact on that man’s family etc

Didn’t obviously deter him.

People choose suicide by train as it’s a quick and reliable method, it’s also highly unlikely to cause anybody else’s death as throwing yourself under a car or bus might. Suicidal people do not want to be left with horrific physical disability, they want to die. And yet they don’t want to die, they want to be saved, but they want life to be different. Some people want to die temporarily. Suicidal people are likely aware that throwing themselves under a train will take a toll on the driver and any witnesses, but to them, they are taking their own lives - the ultimate sacrifice - and the cross the driver or witnesses have to bear is much less, because those people will still have their lives. To go violently and publicly is also a final fuck you to the world. Even in suicide there is an ego thing, or there often is at any rate. Otherwise people would not broadcast their own suicides - but some people do broadcast their own suicides, this is becoming an increasing phenomenon. These people want the world to see them dying, and to become “somebody” through this, and again as a final “fuck you” to the world.

[cowpat]

@Cheasty you seem to have investigated and thought about this topic in so much detail, that you would not want to do it.
In any case, at this stage, if I were given horrible news that I had 6 months to live, I’d definitely become a vigilante as soon as I could.

[Corksfinedtboy]

I’m referring to the late 70s
Was an old fashioned place then
No young ppl at all
But turned a buck

[Cheasty]

@cowpat

@Cheasty you seem to have investigated and thought about this topic in so much detail, that you would not want to do it.
In any case, at this stage, if I were given horrible news that I had 6 months to live, I’d definitely become a vigilante as soon as I could.

I do and I don’t. The previous post is mainly my personal perspective, the thoughts that have gone through my mind and are still going through my mind.

I would never have seriously contemplated suicide before but it never leaves my mind now because I’m left with a choice between death and a life I utterly reject and rail against, a life I consider a mortal enemy. The worst thing to deal with is how easily I could have avoided this situation if I had taken care of myself.

[LionelRitchie]

Yeah. Had been with me out in Oz and going great. Should never have come.home but did over a bird. Found out she’d been cheating so he left for London.

Had been offered sponsorship in Oz and lifestyle suited him to the ground. Case of you’d wonder could it have been different if had managed to convince not to come home for her

[cowpat]

@Cheasty

The worst thing to deal with is how easily I could have avoided this situation if I had taken care of myself.

Don’t think about could have and should have etc. Think about what you can do NOW to change things.

[Cheasty]

@cowpat

Don’t think about could have and should have etc. Think about what you can do NOW to change things.

Everybody says that but they don’t have to live with somebody else’s situation. To me visual impairment is a soul destroying affliction, it’s something I had nightmares about before, when my granny got macular degeneration I imagined to myself that there could be very few things worse in this life than distorted vision and that I’d rather die than have it. Now I don’t have to imagine it and what’s worse I know I could have avoided it if I’d made a simple five minute trip to Specsavers. It was that easy. There’s no way I can ever forgive myself for that.

My view on suicide has changed. I don’t think there are many legitimate grounds for suicide, yet I remain very confused on the subject. I think debilitating physical illness which a person does not want to live with is grounds for suicide, and maybe unendurable mental torture due to sexual abuse or being in a war zone or not being able to deal with a loved one being murdered or dying tragically at a young age. Some people grow up and have to live in terrible circumstances. Like, people are willing to subject themselves to standing like cattle with hundreds of others in the entirely enclosed lower decks of rafts which have a very good chance of sinking and them dying a horrific death, just to escape the shit had they had to deal with in Africa. Many more people have no chance to escape that shit.

I read the Suicide Watch forum on Reddit and all I see are young people moaning that they’re going to kill themselves because they’ve been dumped or are not good looking enough etc. They have no frame of reference for life. And yet who am I to judge anybody, though in all of these cases I will judge. But what I judge more is our information environment and the total cesspit it has become.

The internet is 100% a driver of suicide, for so many reasons - it’s shallowness, its glorification of stupidity, its memeification of death, its accessibility to extreme images of death, accessibility to extreme subcultures and temptations which drive anger and self-pity, it being a driver of a performative culture, and atomisation and loneliness in general.

[ScorpioLyons]

@Cheasty

@cowpat

Don’t think about could have and should have etc. Think about what you can do NOW to change things.

Everybody says that but they don’t have to live with somebody else’s situation.

Absolutely but we all have our own cross, and often crosses to bear. You or I cannot have pity for ourselves. Get on with what you can do and be glad of it. You can only control what you can control, and that boils down to what can I do now, this moment, today. It sounds all cliche but yesterday and before it is gone forever, no more can be said or done about it.

You obviously find some enjoyment or appreciation for life as you are still with us, thank God. So build on that. Life is too fucking short, and that’s if you’re dealt a good hand or a bad hand by the powers that be. We were born the same and we will die the same. What happens in between is up to you and you alone. Find something you enjoy doing and hold onto it. And then find something else and hold onto that too. Find people you enjoy being around and hold onto them too. You’ll be dead and rotten for generations to come, make the most of the 70 or 80 years we are given.

[balbec]

Paul O’Rourke?

[mikehunt]

Today is the tomorrow I worried about yesterday. Is it as bad as I thought it would be?

[gilgamboa]

@balbec

Paul O’Rourke?

Yeah from bantry

[balbec]

His father comes from Kilmallock. Worked in his uncles pub here for a few years before moving into the Wash. A good lad. All Ireland U21 and minor football medalist?

[gilgamboa]

@balbec

His father comes from Kilmallock. Worked in his uncles pub here for a few years before moving into the Wash. A good lad. All Ireland U21 and minor football medalist?

Yeah a few years older than me I’d say he won an u21 in 94 or 95… bought a heap of pubs in the city in a syndicate. All ended in years eventually but not sure how he fared out or if he’d gotten out in time