Suicide

[THE_LINK_WALSHe]

@ciarancareyshurlingarmy

Yes it was.

that is 3 I have seen second hand in the past 10 days known well to people I know all for similar reasons.

ironically it is the government which sat on its hands that has to act on the underlying issues.

What were the reasons?

[Titch]

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What were the reasons?[/quote]

What are anyone’s reasons LINK?

A culmination of many reasons I assume but a negated and fragile mental state being the main ingredient. A tortured mind.

[thedancingbaby]

@THE LINK WALSHe

What were the reasons?

I’m led to believe a Sunday newspaper was going to expose him this weekend

[Mac]

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I’m led to believe a Sunday newspaper was going to expose him this weekend[/quote]

Expose him in what way?

[thedancingbaby]

@Mac

Expose him in what way?

Rural “affairs”

[Titch]

[quote=“thedancingbaby, post: 217456”]
Rural “affairs”[/quote]

ah Jesus.

[anon95599269]

@thedancingbaby

Rural “affairs”

boggers are scum utter scum

[HBV]

Irish Times reporting this morning McEntee took his own life.

[Sidney]

The politics.ie thread on the death of Shane McEntee was some of the most scurrilous shit you’ll ever read. Some posters there were like baying dogs.

I haven’t read through all this thread again but I’m sure I remember people implying that suicide should be reported as such. I think I disagree with this, first of all out of respect for the family involved and second of all because I think that there is somewhat of a glorification culture around suicide in popular culture. Last week with the school shooting in Connecticut we saw a clip from Charlie Brooker’s show “Newswipe” idely played wthere a psychiatrist (it could have been a psychologist, I can’t remember) criticise the media reporting of mass shootings as encouraging copycats. I actually disagree with that as it’s effectively telling the media not to do their job - you simply can’t cover up a story where 20 kids plus seven or eight teachers are butchered by an automatic rifle-wielding bastard.

First of all the reality is you can’t call many suicides as that until they have been ruled as such by a coroner’s court. Secondly, I think the feelings of a family of a suicide victim must take precedence in the way it is reported. It’s bad enough having a family member die in any circumstances without the word “suicide” being plastered all over the media (obviously the vast majority of suicides will be of no interest to the media but there have been a couple of high profile cases in recent years). It reminds me a bit of that Stewart Lee sketch on political correctness where he ripped the piss out of Richard Littlejohn for insisting that the victims of the Ipswich serial killer should be referred to as “prostitutes”, not “women who worked as prostitutes”. OK, we know “died suddenly” or “died unexpectedly” are often euphemisms but they are, again in Lee’s words, a sort of cushioning phrase.Thirdly, by plastering the word “suicide” all over the media as has happened with the recent deaths of Erin and Shannon Gallagher and Ciara Pugsley, does it not make suicide seem almost perversely glamourous, that it gives the possibility of notoriety and almost an aura of heroism for people who do it, in a somewhat similar manner to the notoriety that the perpetrators of mass shootings? Obviously I’m not comparing the act of suicide to a mass shooting but could there be a strange kind of link there in the notoriety that some suicide victims seek? ie the Facebook tributes etc? I think there is a sort of glorification culture associated with suicide. Kurt Cobain, Ian Curtis etc, even Jovan Belcher from the Kansas City Chiefs despite the fact he’d earlier murdered his girlfriend. Probably a lot of confused thoughts there but there they are.

[anon95599269]

@Sidney

The politics.ie thread on the death of Shane McEntee was some of the most scurrilous shit you’ll ever read. Some posters there were like baying dogs.

I haven’t read through all this thread again but I’m sure I remember people implying that suicide should be reported as such. I think I disagree with this, first of all out of respect for the family involved and second of all because I think that there is somewhat of a glorification culture around suicide in popular culture. Last week with the school shooting in Connecticut we saw a clip from Charlie Brooker’s show “Newswipe” idely played wthere a psychiatrist (it could have been a psychologist, I can’t remember) criticise the media reporting of mass shootings as encouraging copycats. I actually disagree with that as it’s effectively telling the media not to do their job - you simply can’t cover up a story where 20 kids plus seven or eight teachers are butchered by an automatic rifle-wielding bastard.

First of all the reality is you can’t call many suicides as that until they have been ruled as such by a coroner’s court. Secondly, I think the feelings of a family of a suicide victim must take precedence in the way it is reported. It’s bad enough having a family member die in any circumstances without the word “suicide” being plastered all over the media (obviously the vast majority of suicides will be of no interest to the media but there have been a couple of high profile cases in recent years). It reminds me a bit of that Stewart Lee sketch on political correctness where he ripped the piss out of Richard Littlejohn for insisting that the victims of the Ipswich serial killer should be referred to as “prostitutes”, not “women who worked as prostitutes”. OK, we know “died suddenly” or “died unexpectedly” are often euphemisms but they are, again in Lee’s words, a sort of cushioning phrase.Thirdly, by plastering the word “suicide” all over the media as has happened with the recent deaths of Erin and Shannon Gallagher and Ciara Pugsley, does it not make suicide seem almost perversely glamourous, that it gives the possibility of notoriety and almost an aura of heroism for people who do it, in a somewhat similar manner to the notoriety that the perpetrators of mass shootings? Obviously I’m not comparing the act of suicide to a mass shooting but could there be a strange kind of link there in the notoriety that some suicide victims seek? ie the Facebook tributes etc? I think there is a sort of glorification culture associated with suicide. Kurt Cobain, Ian Curtis etc, even Jovan Belcher from the Kansas City Chiefs despite the fact he’d earlier murdered his girlfriend. Probably a lot of confused thoughts there but there they are.

:rolleyes:

[lakesman]

@thedancingbaby

I’m led to believe a Sunday newspaper was going to expose him this weekend

The man has nobody but himself to blame. If he got himself into some kind of ‘mess’ then as far as I’m concerned he took the easy way out and did far more harm and destruction to his family by carrying out this cowardly act rather then facing the media over whatever allegations might come out.

[Titch]

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The man has nobody but himself to blame. If he got himself into some kind of ‘mess’ then as far as I’m concerned he took the easy way out and did far more harm and destruction to his family by carrying out this cowardly act rather then facing the media over whatever allegations might come out.[/quote]

unfortunately suicide appears to have become a realistic option when the shit hits the fan in ones life. Not sure what made society arrive at this low point.

[KIB_man]

I’ll take a PM re the rural affairs bit

[Rudi]

@KIB man

I’ll take a PM re the rural affairs bit

+1

[croppy_boy]

Pm as well please.

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[HBV]

@HBV*

i
if he has committed suicide then it may be a seminal moment for this government and indeed the future direction of the country under this government.

not to be, they are offloading the whole situation onto social media. a good example of where €150k pa gov spin doctors earn their crust.

if the ‘rural affairs’ is not a good example of nasty social media dirty tricks at play then ill take a pm also

[Chavez]

[size=4]Cyber-attacks clampdown call as thousands mourn TD[/size]

let’s ban the interweb thingy…one of the regime is affected

[farmerinthecity]

Gerry McEntee has given out about anonymous posters on websites giving his brother abuse. Irish Independent this morning reporting that this is believed to have been a contributory factor in Shane’s death.

[Fran]

@farmerinthecity

Gerry McEntee has given out about anonymous posters on websites giving his brother abuse. Irish Independent this morning reporting that this is believed to have been a contributory factor in Shane’s death.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Death by internet

[balbec]

@Fran

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Death by internet

It’s a serious business you know