Super Bowl LVII -The arduous advance to Arizona

Lock can’t be Petes idea of a replacement surely?

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Wilsons great until like week 10 when the physicality of the league catches up with him. Similar to Kyler.

Wouldn’t get too excited.

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DL Shelby Harris part of the deal. Not hapoy about losing him.

Unlikely. They’ll be getting two firsts so will probably look to grab someone next season.

Hard not to after…Siemian, Keenum, Lynch, Flacco, Lock, Bridgewater.

Noah Fant too :scream:

Not happy seeing him go.

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Albert O season.

What # are the picks?

Looks like Seattle win this trade to me.

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Wilson is more robust than Kyler, but he was taking a lot of punishment year on year behind that Seattle line. I’m not sure how much tread is left on the tires though.

Seattle need to blow it up anyhow, and Pete moving on/out will be part of the process

Thinks it’s win-win and a great deal by Paton. They weren’t going to get a QB in the draft but have a deep roster and a load of draft picks.

They need to draft well on the DL, get a TE and an OT.

Edge was a need but I reckon Von comes home now.

The Great train robbery 2.0

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Denver are actual contendors now, will they bring MG3 back?

Both sides want to apparently.

@Big_Dan_Campbell any chance you could do the honours?

INDIANAPOLIS — How an NFL team feels about its quarterback situation is, for the most part, how a team feels about its very viability.

Hopes, fears, expectations and options combine to create degrees of quarterback contentment or angst.

As the NFL combine begins and the trading period awaits with the March 14 start of free agency, it’s a good time to stack all 32 teams on the Quarterback Angst Index. If this were simply a ranking of quarterbacks, the Indianapolis Colts might rank somewhere in the middle instead of at the very top. But with their coach and general manager deep into their tenures, with their owner pushing hard for championship success right now and with no clearly superior alternative to Carson Wentz readily available, the Colts arguably carry more quarterback angst this offseason than any other team.

  1. Indianapolis Colts
    It’s a different level of angst when the team owner punctuates a foreboding social-media rant by looking into the camera on the tarmac near his private jet and declaring in his most serious voice that what happened last season was “unacceptable, and it will not stand.” Jim Irsay runs hot anyway. He’s been overheated lately. All signs point to a quarterback change, but it’s not clear how much the team can upgrade from Carson Wentz. Having sent the team’s 2022 first-round pick to Philadelphia in the Wentz trade doesn’t help matters.

  2. Carolina Panthers
    Coach Matt Rhule has sacrificed one quarterback (Teddy Bridgewater) and one offensive coordinator (Joe Brady) in two seasons. The only guarantee at quarterback for Carolina is the $18.8 million salary committed to Sam Darnold for 2022. How can Rhule bet his job on Darnold?

  3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    Coach Bruce Arians talking up Blaine Gabbert recalls what Arians said of another backup, Drew Stanton, early in Arians’ tenure as the Arizona Cardinals’ coach. “I feel comfortable with Drew as our starter, being able to win and go to the playoffs and win the championship,” Arians said then. The team then acquired Carson Palmer.

  4. Denver Broncos
    Speculation linking the Broncos to Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson and even Deshaun Watson is leading … where? The Broncos, a quarterback away from contending since Peyton Manning retired, keep losing ground as other AFC teams add upper-tier talent at the position. Denver has won 40% of post-Manning games, despite ranking ninth over that span in combined expected points added (EPA) on defense and special teams, according to TruMedia.

  5. Washington Commanders
    Daniel Snyder’s embarrassing, offensive ownership tenure continues to overshadow a 14-19 record on the field in two seasons under Ron Rivera, but purely from a football standpoint, it’s time to make a move at the position. Owning the 11th pick in the draft assures little.

  6. Cleveland Browns
    The Browns have $18.8 million committed to Baker Mayfield in 2022 without having reason to think they can win a championship with him behind center, or even that the fit is right. The rest of the roster seems ready to win. For the Browns, sticking with Mayfield could amount to burning a year of their contending window, but what are the alternatives?

  7. Pittsburgh Steelers
    Retiring GM Kevin Colbert has until the draft to set the Steelers on a winning course at quarterback. It will mark the franchise’s biggest crossroads at the position since 2004, when the Steelers scuttled plans to select tackle Shawn Andrews with the 11th pick after Ben Roethlisberger slipped past Cleveland and out of the top 10. The 2004 Steelers had Tommy Maddox, at least. The current team lacks a proven option.

  8. New Orleans Saints
    The Saints were 144-85, counting playoffs, when Drew Brees started at quarterback with Sean Payton as head coach. Both are gone. Taysom Hill and Ian Book are the only quarterbacks under contract to the team, and some would dispute whether Hill is even a quarterback. Jameis Winston could return.

  9. New York Jets
    Zach Wilson ranked 40th out of 41 qualifying first-round rookies since 2000 in both EPA per pass play, which counts sacks and scrambles, and EPA per pass attempt, which does not. Josh Rosen was the only first-round rookie ranked lower. That might not mean much for the future, but it does create angst now, especially as expectations rise heading into the coaching staff’s second season.

  10. New York Giants
    The Giants have a new head coach and GM, with an owner willing to give them a season to evaluate the incumbent QB. Their new leaders are not under great pressure to suddenly produce a contender. The angst comes from whether sticking with Daniel Jones for another season is the best decision, especially with a deadline approaching for exercising the quarterback’s fifth-year option. The team still could head in another direction.

  11. Miami Dolphins
    Tua Tagovailoa gets a fresh start under an offensive-minded head coach (Mike McDaniel) whose specialty is the running game. The coaching reset and offensive design shifts focus away from the quarterback for now, but it’s long been clear Miami selected the wrong quarterback in the 2020 draft. The Justin Herbert angst is real in Miami.

  12. Houston Texans
    There are many more sources of angst in Houston than the quarterback situation, which could simply see the Texans proceeding with Davis Mills as the starter in 2022. Bigger picture, Texans fans could have moved past angst toward numbness while tracking not only the Deshaun Watson situation at quarterback, but also whatever it was that resulted in the team considering Josh McCown and Brian Flores as head coaches in between firing David Culley and hiring Lovie Smith.

  13. Arizona Cardinals
    Kyler Murray scrubbing the Cardinals from his Instagram profile focused attention on issues between player and team. Murray reportedly felt the organization was scapegoating him for its playoff implosion. The team reportedly wants more maturity and leadership from its QB. There was enough angst for owner Michael Bidwill to publicly address the situation, affirming that “Kyler’s a part of our long-term plan.” Murray’s agent replied Monday with a call for the team to prioritize a new contract. Angst in Arizona could be rising, but it could mostly be posturing designed to influence contract negotiations.

  14. Tennessee Titans
    The good news for Tennessee is, Ryan Tannehill was much more productive on early downs last season when Derrick Henry was on the field than when Henry was off it, suggesting Henry’s return from injury could boost the quarterback in 2022. The bad news is, Tannehill’s production still fell off a cliff last season compared to previous seasons, regardless of Henry’s availability. There’s some angst that this offense, and specifically this quarterback, has peaked.

  15. Minnesota Vikings
    Kirk Cousins’ guaranteed $35 million salary for 2022 comes with a $45 million cap charge. Pursuing an extension would create cap flexibility. It also might maintain the Vikings’ status as a competent team that isn’t likely to become a true contender without a QB upgrade.

  16. Atlanta Falcons
    The Falcons would have gotten worse at quarterback in the short term had they drafted one and moved on from Matt Ryan last offseason. The problem is, they are back picking in the top 10 even after stretching their salary cap to keep Ryan as their guy. Did they make the right move?

  17. Green Bay Packers
    All signs point to Aaron Rodgers returning for another season with the Packers, but there’s still at least a little angst pending formal confirmation.

  18. San Francisco 49ers
    Should the 49ers trade Jimmy Garoppolo and make Trey Lance their starter for 2022? What could they get in return for Garoppolo? Is there any chance they could land Tom Brady? Any of these options could feel like the right thing to pursue. If there’s angst, it’s more about the uncertainty until the situation plays out.

  19. Seattle Seahawks
    Has Wilson declined? Does he want to remain in Seattle? When and how will the next round of drama manifest? Some angst lingers in the absence of imminent trouble. Seattle is, at best, one season away from Wilson’s next contract becoming a storyline.

  20. Baltimore Ravens
    Injuries, some decline in performance/production and an unsettled contract situation create longer-range angst surrounding Lamar Jackson, but nothing too concerning in the immediate future.

  21. Chicago Bears
    There will be high expectations for Justin Fields entering the quarterback’s second season, and first under a new staff. Any angst stems from the uncertainty of the situation with a defensive-minded head coach, a first-time NFL offensive coordinator and some of the same offensive personnel shortcomings that affected Fields as a rookie.

  22. Detroit Lions
    The draft capital Detroit acquired for Matthew Stafford gives the Lions a chance to rebuild and possibly acquire a long-term quarterback solution, but the planets aren’t necessarily aligning for the QB portion of the equation.

  23. Las Vegas Raiders
    Derek Carr is entering the final year of his contract. That might normally create some angst, but not so much in this case. New coach Josh McDaniels could, if he chooses, spend the 2022 season evaluating Carr before deciding how to proceed.

  24. Jacksonville Jaguars
    Trevor Lawrence gets a do-over on his rookie season now that the Jaguars have moved on from Urban Meyer. If he struggles under Doug Pederson, the mild concern of the present becomes a little more angsty.

  25. New England Patriots
    Mac Jones played well enough as a rookie for the Patriots to run it back happily, but all the teams listed below have higher ceilings because of their QBs.

  26. Philadelphia Eagles
    Not much angst here. The Eagles got great value for Wentz in retrospect. They like Jalen Hurts and could stick with him as their starter. They also own sufficient draft capital to play in the trade market if opportunities to upgrade become available there.

  27. Dallas Cowboys
    Dak Prescott’s production slipped following his calf injury last season, and the Cowboys still haven’t made a deep playoff run during his first six seasons. But the vital signs are solid. Quarterback is not a concern in Dallas.

  28. Buffalo Bills
    Offensive coordinator Brian Daboll’s departure creates less angst regarding Josh Allen’s future trajectory than it might have one year ago.

  29. Cincinnati Bengals
    Any angst surrounds the Bengals’ ability to protect Joe Burrow from future hits. Strengthening the offensive line, reducing drop-back passing and coaching Burrow to avoid hits could all be part of a remedy.

  30. Los Angeles Rams
    There might be some mild concern over how well Matthew Stafford will perform over the coming seasons, but the reality is this: one season in Los Angeles, one Super Bowl ring on order.

  31. Los Angeles Chargers
    Two mostly spectacular seasons spread across two coaching staffs leaves little doubt regarding Justin Herbert’s trajectory. Unlike Burrow, Herbert hasn’t been seriously hurt. Unlike Allen, Herbert didn’t struggle during his initial seasons. Unlike Stafford, Herbert did not cost his team a slew of draft choices.

  32. Kansas City Chiefs
    The final 31 minutes of the AFC Championship Game against Cincinnati remain puzzling, but not a source of long-term concern. Patrick Mahomes is signed for the long term, playing at a high level and already owns a Super Bowl victory.

(Photo: Chris Coduto / Getty Images)

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Thats some trade off. Honestly, im not sure its worth it. I dont think Wilson is a sure fire superbowl contender straight away and although he intends to play til hes 40, i dont see it. As @cluaindiuic said, he gets beat down towards the end ofnthe season. Thats some pay load to give out. Seahawks do brilliant out of this andncan really rebuild. If nothing else, it highlights how few top end QBs there are and how much they can demand both in trade and salary requests

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Jags surprisingly have franchised Cam Robinson for the second year in a row. Hard to see them taking an OT with the first pick in the draft now

He was getting killed in Seattle every year, if they protect him in Denver there’s no reason to think he can’t strong a full season together, wasn’t the same at all after the finger problem last year