It’s a sad reflection on our teenagers that they’re listening to the same music as their parents
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Music isn’t where youth culture is largely expressed anymore. To expect it should be is probably a bit old fashioned.
That’s seriously interesting, why is that?
The INTERNET
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Thats a crock. We’re at a cultural low point- the comparisons with bruce and that dim bint are interesting, except it should be a contrast. Bruce has songs that will be sung forever, tailor’s ‘products’ are throwaway single use plastic. She’s mildly interesting as an illustration of an artistic vacuum. Empty-headed cynical mediocrity polished up as melodramatic weepy sincerity. @backinatracksuit likes it ffs, probably @glasagusban aswell
My expectations are actually very low, which makes you entirely wrong.
Where is youth culture “largely expressed” btw? Loom bands on tik tok?
Dead poster @Sidney was making these points in early 2016.
The current cutting edges of INTERNET-based popular culture are probably making money from homemade porn, fast fashion and mass conspiracism. Gaming. YouTubing and Tik Toking.
Can you imagine being stuck beside TS on a 24 hour light to Australia. What common ground could you find…shes into sequins and sequins, you’re into mikhail bulgakov and viking techno. You’d have fuck all to talk about.
Now imagine being stuck beside sinead o’connor, sade, tinita tikarim, blondie or dana, or even sporty spice for that matter. It’d be laugh a minute
Like the pub trade sure
Or Bjórk
It all went downhill once they banned smoking in pubs
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I’d take PJ Harvey, even though I only like a few of her songs.
60s, 70s, 80s, 90s were a period when pop music was synonymous with pop culture and youth and you had wave after wave of evolution of different genres in quick succession.
Music and the bands you liked was how you presented yourself to the world as a teenager/young adult and you said this is is me, this is what I listen to, how I dress, hairstyle etc - mods, goths, rockers, ravers, grunge, punk all had a look.
Now kids have the Internet, online forums, posting memes, videos and their social media channels to present themselves to the world and don’t need to really do it through music and what they listen to
In a similar vein youth fashion has largely atrophied - look at a photo of clothes in 1960 versus 1990 and huge difference. Look at clothes from 1994 to 2024 and the differences are far less noticeable.
There is also the fact that before Spotify record companies served as a gatekeeper of sorts for quality - for good and for bad - but it meant music was a viable career and a career you could get rich at if you “made” it. Now Spotify means it’s harder to make money from music and so it becomes a career for people who can afford not to have to make money doing it and once any culture becomes gentrified it too atrophies.
You will always get the exceptions, the flower that finds it’s way through the concrete and there are some great young bands out there but as a collective genre and expression of culture it’s become middle aged in the main and a legacy art form as we see now with all the greatest hits band tour and album anniversary appearances and the music being sold is majority back catalogue as a generation who thought they’d never get old don’t have to give up their youth.
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So basically what you’re saying is they’re a bunch of stone-useless, uncultured dullards, fit for nothing only staring at screens and scrolling?
Not at all. They’ve just found different ways to express themselves and the fact that those ways are alien to their parents is sort of the way it’s supposed to be since the invention of the teenager in 1950s
You could tell her all about the time you played in a local football match when you were only 15 
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The preponderance of evidence indicates that if you are a male Taylor Swift fan over the age of thirty, you likely have elevated estrogen levels and potentially a vagina. Reviewing the aforementioned posts and their contributors corroborates this assertion.
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Eh mate , have you seen the Swifties ?!
They just dress up for the gigs and go back to the uniform next day
Punk/goth/mod/mettaller were full time looks,
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Provincial