By the same token thereās lads with no real specialised qualifications past a basic degree with not much more than 5 years experience getting north of 75k for no real accountability and managing no more than one or two staff and zero chance of getting fired for performance ā¦from what Iāve seen thatās hard got that in the private ā¦
I do believe it but it is without context and Fulvio is throwing it out to support his argument.
A guy with a good business and solid savings will get a Mortgage. A guy with a great business but bad debts previously may struggle.
Itās a shitty example to try and undermine a poster here.
Regardless, many people need in current climate 2 wages to get a Mortgage of any decent size.
Where?
Civil service
Bullshitting away here. You havenāt a notion what you are on about. What can a self employed tradesmen secure a mortgage with? What assets has he?
We both know well you want this conversation to end ASAP dare you actually have to clarify matters.
Are you an expert on mortgages now?
If you are really asking me this question then toddle along.
I can assure you not too many employees earn north of 75k in private sector outside of Dublin unless they have a lot of extra hours or unsociable shifts.
You donāt know what you are talking about so I wouldnāt be asking you any questions. Iām just reassured that you are now on the spot and clearly havenāt a notion.
Mate, I implore you to stop embarrassing yourself like this.
You just got your arse handed to you by @gman. You have no life experience and havenāt a baldy notion what youāre talking about here. Nada.
AP starts at 65. Thereās not many getting there five years after graduating a basic degree either Iād say. 30 is young for an AP. In my experience anyway.
This is excruciating painful from you. Blessā¦
I find that very hard to believe.
I pity your keyboard, which seems to be the only thing you have a meaningful relationship with
This is fun. Believe me.
A little snipe like you being exposed is gratifying. Tell us how itās so easy for a self employed tradesman to get a mortgage.
Oh itās classist wanker back for the fourth time after saying he was off the thread.
Post up where I said so, mate.
Here.
Yeah thatās a Fair point ,I miscalculated . Iāll go 8 to 10 years ā¦the point stands about what they have to do for the 75kā¦i donāt think 30 is young anymore ā¦does ap not start at 67k now ?
Youāve been here all day tagging me and referring to me and my family 
You absolute fucking weirdo