Answer the point you raised: if teachers having 12 weeks of leave is ‘a perk’, it follows that children should be more than 40 weeks in school per annum. If children should not be more than 40 weeks per annum in school, teachers being away from direct teaching duties for 12 weeks is not a perk, a contingency, but a corollary of educational philosophy.
They should not be paid for the 12 weeks they don’t work.
The avg industrial worker will do a 37-40 hr working week for 47-48 weeks of the year. Why are teachers so special that they get a 30 hr working week with what is probably a 38 week year on a salary scale of €38-70k? And then proceed to neglect their duties and strike?
You have failed an examination of your fortitude and your debating ability 8 times successively now.
You resorted to telling fibs to make a point (a poorly made one) and now can’t back it up.
It’s clear as day why you were such a coward in other threads. It’s a clear as day why you can’t frame a coherent argument, it’s clear as day why you seem to be the only one along with crotch sniffer @carryharry who thinks you are in someway intelligent.
I was schooled in the north. It’s not hard to find out holiday seasons and pay scales of teachers, it is all publicly available information and that’s all I’ve commented on.
Now we – finally – come down to the bub: the idiot jealously of an unskilled worker. Hurrah.
There is nothing wrong with being an unskilled worker for a living. Nothing at all. But there is something terribly unseemly about rancid irrational jealousy of people who are not.
you’ve rebutted almost all arguments about the difficulty of the profession with whataboutery… what about other jobs etc.
Teaching in my opinion is a specialized profession, and a highly stressful one at that.
I’d prefer happy teachers because they have my kids for longer than I do 5 days a week. I don’t want my kids going in to miserable, bitter, unhappy adults. I want them going in to motivated, refreshed, well balanced individuals.
for certain courses you need academic performances. Yes, but what relevance has that at all to what you said. For civil engineering, you simply need to get an arbitrary set of points in the leaving cert. For teaching, you need to get a set of points. You can get into civil engineering being shit at maths and never doing physics. so it matters little at all, its about getting a load of points.
you keep saying a lot of teachers are there for the 3 months off. But you dont know that, you perceive that. Teaching very, very clearly isnt for you, so the only reason you think someone teaches is because they get holidays. However a lot of teachers actually enjoy, strangely enough, teaching and they do it because they like the job, not the pay and not the perks. I know it’s probably a hard one to understand, but not everyone thinks the same way as you.
You have also mentioned that it attracts charlatans, and on the other hand ask why are the points higher than others to get in. Maybe the points are higher to try have less charlatans in it. There are clearly a load of useless teachers out there, the most of them must have been based on the Armagh/Tryone/Italian border, but there are also a huge number of very good teachers out there who do their job very well.
I’ll give you the respect of saying I’m out of this now, its descended (further) into a complete farce of a thread and it’ll have a few hundred replies over and back of one person saying idiot and the other saying they cant debate. Until September when they get back to school…