Easy enough learn the rules itâs straightforward enough.
The nuances and the strategy are a different story. Be prepared for ridicule and rows
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Like most things, the theory will only get you so far, you need to play it. While it might be rough at the start getting abuse from auld lads is the only way to learn
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Being a rent boy canât be easy.
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Thatâs probably true; Iâm not worried so much about strategy or anything like that just the actual rules.
I mean I know how to play 45, but what are the tangible differences with 110?
As far as I am aware, an extra hand is dealt which is bid for and trumps is declared by the winning bidder? How does the actual bidding work? I mean presumably you can only really bid 15/20/30?
Ya the bidding at the start is the only thing that is different. Lowest bid is 15, then increments of 5 after that. The highest is 30 and if you call âdouble bubbleâ or âbellâ you can get 60 if you jink it (but go minus 60 if you donât).
The dealer can usually "hold " the highest bid, i.e. if someone goes 15 and the dealer is last to act then he can hold 15 and if the other person wants to call trumps they will have to go 20.
The rules vary from place to place. I played recently and 3 of us were from different local towns and all had different variations on the rules, so there is no shame in asking what the table rules are before you play.
Some places include the joker, usually in the ranking order, 5, J, AH, Joker, Ace Trumps. Other places allow the fall of the first hand come into the caller.
Jaysus⌠I came from a family that the Christmasâs were spent playing 110. 6 of us around the table with the ould fella holding court. He is gone a good few years now and we have all gone our separate ways. Right I am going to teach my kids how to play 45 this Christmas, time for a new tradition.
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Maybe fake a power cut, that should give you the few hours required.
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Iâll plug the fuckin internet machine out for a few hours⌠They wont know what to do without it
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Presumably bidding 25 is the same as 30? And I presume that the call is for yourself and your partner? And the winning bidder gets deducted their bid amount if they donât make it?
How about discarding cards? Only the winning bidder gets to do that?
We play that the winner bidder can pick his best five from both dummy and dealt hand. Everyone else can buy a maximum of 3.
Iâve seen the maximum amount you can buy vary between 3 & 5, but Iâd always strongly argue against anyone being allowed more than 3, that means everyone gets to buy and there is at least two cards buried.
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And is there a rule that you have to win with a call of 20 or something like that?
If youâre at 90, donât call, but win a trick or two⌠does your score stick at 90 or does it go up to 100?
Generally yes but again this can vary. Going out on a call of 20 generally means a longer game and yes you stick at 90. Works well for building the pot, you have lads taking a risk calling 90 and not making it , or you have dealers holding the call of 20 just to stop someone getting out and they end up being ringed. Sometimes for quicker games we play straight out, first to reach 110 wins but the person who calls gets a chance to finish out his hand and gets preference if he passes 110 after someone who didnât call.
Christ itâs a wonderful game.
Iâm looking forward to playing it this Christmas, few of my relatives are supposedly decent enough. I think itâs played on Monday nights locally but I donât think Iâll go down here till I get a bit of experience under my belt.
The way we play it is that you canât win with 5s from the games that you didnât call. You had to win a game you called to win out. You didnât have to call 20 to win but thatâs the way it worked our because youâd never be allowed go for 15 if you were trying to win out. Someone would always outbid you to make it harder on you.
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This might be useful for new players.
Let me know if you see any issues/typos. Threw it together quickly.
Two things:
- The way we played it was Joker was better than Ace of Hearts and worse than the Jack.
- Headings are TrumpsLed. So DiamondClub mean Diamonds are trumps and Clubs were led.
One step closer to our 25s website empire @TreatyStones
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Go through the logic with me on the values?
The actual number values used are arbitrary enough. Could have used 1-53 or whatever but I wanted the conditional formatting to be clearer.
Itâs just to show what cards are more valuable than others in each of the 16 different possible combinations of what is led and what is trumps.
The only thing Iâd say is the King of hearts is more valuable when Hearts are trumps, than say the King of spades when spades are trumps, due to the fact that there is only one Ace better than it. So a King of hearts (when hearts are trumps) is equivalent of an A of spades (when spades are trumps).
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OK, but thatâd just be more of a ceremonial thing. Itâs not more valuable to the point where it can beat any extra cards.
Itâd be in this case, say, 240 to be on par with the other Aces if they were trump.
No but less cards can beat it.