The Anti Rugby Football Thread Pt 2

Itā€™s actually interesting but tagdh beirne is probably the best actual Irish born player playing at the moment.

Funny he actually went abroad and learnt a bit. Similar to o gara whoā€™s a top coach now.

So few of the Irish players experiencing playing abroad is surely not good imo.

Rugby club world cup looks a lot more interesting than its soccer counterpart.

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Iā€™ve said for years they should affiliations with French clubs to loan players.

It would do wonders for lads. You canā€™t beat playing imo.

Quite strange it hasnā€™t happened imo. Should he ran every 2-3 years, alternating hemispheres.

Money

I think itā€™s complete nonsense. Who would they loan? Academy players? How much are they being paid a year? How much more to house them over in France? Iā€™d say most of those guys are in university, would they be required to drop their studies for a year? What benefit would it be for an Irish academy to handover the S&C and coaching of a young player to a french club that doesnā€™t give a fuck about them and can return them crocked? It makes no sense. If players arenā€™t getting game time with provinceā€™s they should be playing AIL.

Itā€™s absolutely insanity in this day and age that professional athletes go back and play ail. Is it even save?

As example Harry byrne has been is 25 and is third/fourth fiddle for how many seasons now?

You are much better off playing than arsing about the place.

Calvin nash another example of players starved of game time.

Scott Penney another.

I donā€™t no how you think players canā€™t improve without playing.

Should be a great watch though.

Iā€™m willing to give that World Cup of Club Rubby a chance. Itā€™s a sport that needs to try new things to widen the audience. One Champions Cup/Parker Pen Challenge Cup lost out of every four year cycle isnā€™t an absolute disaster when thereā€™s a huge decline in interest in those tournaments anyways since the BT/TNT reformatting. Hard to take a competition seriously when you can advance losing 75% of pool games like Connacht in 2023.

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Not a fan of spreading the games across multiple countries.

Itā€™s the exact sort of tournament that should be held in Ireland as we are incapable of hosting a full Rugby World Cup but would give something like this heavy backing.

Ireland, South Africa, France, New Zealand and Japan prime hosts of this. Keep two guaranteed spots for host countries.

Different seasons is an issue.

Perhaps if doing a short term thing, Iā€™d do it with the MLR or Super Rugby after the AIL season finishes.

There is definitely scope for more people to move around and more avenues to get experience in Irish rugby.

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Imagine what six weeks in the southern hemisphere for Sam Prendergast could do? How many actual games has he played this year?

Itā€™s a huge hinderance imo.

France are gonna sign a deal to develop Irish players over their own?

:joy::joy::joy:

Timā€™s suggestion of sending them to the southern hemisphere is more realistic, it might be more attractive to players. Itā€™s not soccer where the money is huge, you canā€™t require players to move, itā€™s completely unrealistic.

However, itā€™s fairly presumptuous to think the likes of Scott Penney would get more games with decent teams anywhere else. Or Prendergast. If they canā€™t get a URC game in Ireland are they going to land in and be starting players in a super rugby team? Unlikely. If the likes of those players had any ambition theyā€™d up and move themselves the way Cian Prendergast has done and Conway did. Max Deegan and others the same. Thereā€™s plenty of options there for them, Connacht would love to have most of them. Ulster many of them, and Munster would take the hand off them for a few backs.

On playing AIL. My S&C mate says itā€™s the biggest problem of the academies, young players not having a feel for games, and that there for halves especially they need more gametime and less coaching. Darcy is always giving out about not linking the AIL to player development and I suppose this is what he means.

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Yeah cause heā€™d walk into the starting teams below there.

Diarmuid Barron would learn a lot more in pro D2 in France than he would pissing about the ul sports bar.

You want to make it a pro sportsman itā€™s incredibly tough. Ireland only have four sides. The distribution of players from a national point of view isnā€™t good.

One solution is to encourage younger players to go abroad and if they are good enough is to come back.

Bundee aki, Mack Hansen and Gibson park were nearly all lost to the game before coming to Ireland.

Playing games is vital.

What time is the Leinster game on Saturday?

5:30

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None of this post makes sense.

Barron is a first choice Munster player if fit.

None of aki Hansen or Gibson park were nearly lost to the game, thatā€™s a nonsense suggestion. They simply werenā€™t picked to be internationals. They were all pro rugby players. That doesnā€™t ever bear a resemblance to a point.

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