Another classic conspiracy theorist tactic - lazily telling people to go off and “find the evidence”. If you post on a thread such as this positing a theory about what happened it is your job to convince people that you are right, that’s why the thread exists.
I’m havin a drink man and have no intention in typing for hours as i said seek out ureself, do u actually believe Oswald even tok a shot btw. There’s been shit going on for years in many countires and still going on, govermnet overthrows, coups etc… do you not believe dis? in this case the coup happened in the US by the US
I’ve already conclusively shown on this thread that Oswald was the lone shooter.
Your entire reasoning here appears to be: Shadowy group A committed crime B, therefore shadowy group A must also have committed crime Z.
[quote=“Sidney, post: 867882, member: 183”]I’ve already conclusively shown on this thread that Oswald was the lone shooter.
Your entire reasoning here appears to be: Shadowy group A committed crime B, therefore shadowy group A must also have committed crime Z.[/quote]
Who controls the world mate
Pink elephants*?
*Not a eurphemism for homosexual members of the US Republican party.
[quote=“Sidney, post: 867882, member: 183”]I’ve already conclusively shown on this thread that Oswald was the lone shooter.
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How do you explain the different wounds that the 2 shots caused? The first one went straight through him and largely remained intact whereas the 2nd exploded causing the massive exit wound? They had to be different type of bullets therefore not a lone gunman.
Also, many on the ground claimed they smelt gunpowder which could not have been from oswalds gun in the 6 th floor. This was never investigated in the Warren commission
[quote=“gerrardno1, post: 868075, member: 50”]How do you explain the different wounds that the 2 shots caused? The first one went straight through him and largely remained intact whereas the 2nd exploded causing the massive exit wound? They had to be different type of bullets therefore not a lone gunman.
Also, many on the ground claimed they smelt gunpowder which could not have been from oswalds gun in the 6 th floor. This was never investigated in the Warren commission[/quote]
Same type of bullets, different types of wounds because of the different type of tissue they went through. The first one went entirely through soft tissue of Kennedy. The second hit his skull. For the same reasons, the first bullet stayed intact and the other fragmented.
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/dealey.htm
Conspiracy authors seldom fail to discuss several witnesses who saw “smoke,” or “steam,” or “motorcycle exhaust” on the Grassy Knoll. Of course, they forget the “steam” and “motorcycle exhaust” and present all the witnesses as having seen smoke from a rifle. But just how much smoke do modern rifles produce? One clue comes from the movie JFK[/URL]. Director Oliver Stone could not find a rifle that would emit the necessary cloud of smoke when fired, and so he resorted to having a special-effects man [URL=‘http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/smoke.rm’]blow smoke from a bellows. Many consider this an appropriate metaphor for the entire movie.
Conspiracy authors also mention several witnesses who said they smelled gunpower in Dealey Plaza in the wake of the shooting. This is claimed to prove a Grassy Knoll shooter, since supposedly smoke from the Sniper’s Nest could not have drifted down into the Plaza. But one witness who was a hundred yards upwind of the Plaza smelled “gunpowder.” Either the smell of shots can travel further than we assume, or (more likely) witnesses didn’t smell gunpowder at all.
Six witnesses (only one who was on the grassy knoll) claimed to have smelt gunpowder. Modern rifles (ie. post 1900) useless smokeless gunpowder. Any odour of gunpowder would have been impossible to detect more than five feet away.
Why would you disregard the testimony of the vast majority of grassy knoll witnesses who didn’t smell anything?
What a president.
Dealing with the big issues of the day
I’d say Ted Cruz and his family are shitting it
Wasn’t that happening anyway?
"The President John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Collection Act of 1992 was the result, and it was signed into law by President George H. W. Bush on 26 October 1992.
The Records Collection Act also created an independent board to oversee the declassification effort—the Assassination Records Review Board (ARRB)—and invested it with the power to direct agencies to release documents, with direct appeal to the President as the agencies’ only recourse. The law defined “assassination record” very broadly. It decreed that no records could remain classified beyond twenty-five years of the enactment. In other words, the law mandates that all JFK assassination records must be fully declassified by 26 October 2017."
Hilariously that crackpot JFK movie Oliver Stone made is the main reason that act got passed.
Yeah, it still could have been blocked on national security grounds by the president I think
The only genuine conspiracy is that the CIA and FBI withheld information and lied to the Warren commission and all subsequent official investigations. As a former defector to the USSR and a Marxist with sympathies to Castro, both agencies would have been well aware of Oswald. They lied about his trip to Mexico city earlier in 1963 where he visited the Cuban consulate and tried to get a visa to Cuba, and the CIA lied about their own multiple attempts on Castro’s life. The latest records will likely add more color to what the CIA and FBI knew about Oswald and what they withheld from the Warren commission. The most likely is that the CIA and FBI between them had more than enough evidence to have Oswald under 24 hour surveillance or have him arrested.
The simplest explanation is that Oswald was a Marxist with sympathies to Castro, and upon hearing of the plots to kill Castro (which were reported at the time and Oswald was an avid reader), decided to assassinate Kennedy and become a major historical figure in his delusional mind.
Having been in 6th floor of Dallas book depository my main question id why not shoot him coming up Houston rather than Elm. Much easier shot.
Also how did he manage to get off 4 shots with a faulty Carcano rifle and the fateful shot driving Kennedys shot back and to the left consistent with a shot from Grassy Knoll.
Whatever happened with Babushka Lady, Umbrella man,
And the seemingly incalcuable odds that many of the witnesses in this assasination met an untimely demise in the most peculiar of circumstances. Most notably Lee Bowers who had a birdseye view of what happened that day,
That’s all fine but he wasn’t alone.
Can someone put themselves forward please to read all the declassified JFK files and to reconvene here tomorrow evening to present your findings to the rest of the forum.
Based on what?
The NOGRA did it
IThere are several possible reasons why Oswald chose Elm. Connally was sitting in front of Kennedy so he might have worried about him in the way. There was a sharp turn onto Elm where he knew they had to slow. He might have been more worried about people spotting him from the other direction. Or maybe he wasn’t ready.
There were 3 shots not 4, the evidence for a 4th shot from the police recording was refuted. First shot missed, second went thorough Kennedys neck and hit Connolly, third blew Kenneddys head off.
Kennedys head moved forward initially then violently backward. Probably a reflex reaction from thousands of nerve cells being blown to bits.
Look, people look for patterns and unusual events and try and weave then into a story. Improbable odds have a habit of happening, and with the intense scrutiny on every detail, not surprising there is ample room for conspiracy theories.
When you look at the actual evidence of Oswalds behavior that day, there is little doubt he was the assassin. Whether he had help is another question.