Kev is seething. Its been roundly acknowledge everywhere bar Cork and Cyril that Muiris gave an exhibition of refereeing on Sunday.
Imagine being on the same side of an opinion as Cyril!
Good man Maurice
CHAMPIONSHIP 2009 NEWS: TWO LEADING referees have denied that time-keeping duties are a problem for match officials and would be happy to continue with the responsibility. Wexford’s Dickie Murphy and Pat McEnaney from Monaghan, who have between them taken charge of seven All-Ireland football and hurling finals, both believe since the advent of the time boards, signalling the amount of added time, there has been little controversy.
That changed at the weekend with Marty Duffy criticised for not playing sufficient additional time in Croke Park after the Dublin-Meath match had been held up over an injury to Dublin’s Mark Davoren, who was eventually stretchered off but only two minutes’ injury-time was signalled.
In Killarney Laois’s Maurice Deegan was criticised for playing nearly a minute over time at the end of the Kerry-Cork Munster semi-final. According to McEnaney, [B]Deegan had in fact informed the sideline that he would be playing an additional three minutes but that because of a mix-up only two were announced.
“I don’t think overall it’s a problem,” said the Monaghan referee. “Since the time boards were introduced there’s been very little controversy. It’s one of those annoying little things that we preach day in and day out to pay attention and if we announce two or three minutes – play it.
“At the weekend there was an error in communication in Killarney because Maurice Deegan signalled three minutes but the time board came up as two.”[/B]
Murphy believes that the time boards have increased public focus on the amount of time being added on but says he has never found it a difficult burden. He is, however, not concerned at the thought of referees losing the responsibility.
“If it’s gone, it’s gone but I don’t see it as a major problem. It hardly ever arises in club games. I think it’s because since the time boards came in everyone is watching the amount of injury time played. It’s the same for people watching on television.”
Meanwhile, Michael Curley the chair of the National Referees Committee went farther than the two referees and said that he would support moves to transfer the time-keeping function.
“The ref is the time-keeper at the moment and it’s quite an onerous task when he’s trying to keep tabs on everything else that’s happening. I would have no problem with taking time-keeping out of the hands of referees and in fact, I would favour it.”
He also revealed that Duffy should have played four minutes of additional time at Croke Park: “I spoke to Marty afterwards and he did tell me that the watch stopped on him. It has happened before to me and other refs. We always have two. We let one run, stop the other and use that to determine the time left. Marty went over to the sideline once or twice to try to get as much detail as he could. He added on just over two and a half minutes of what should have been four.”
Murphy said that he would have no difficulties with introducing the countdown clock used in women’s football.
“The clock works well in women’s football. If it was brought in it wouldn’t worry me. I don’t see it as a resigning issue! It would take a while to get used to signalling stoppages to the time keeper and that could be a problem in the heat of a championship match but I’m sure we’d get used to it. Maybe it could be tried out in next year’s leagues and introduced for the championship.”
The automated clock was introduced in women’s football for the 1998 championship after a controversial 13 minutes of injury time was played at the end of the previous year’s All-Ireland final between Monaghan and Waterford – although video and stopwatch analysis vindicated the decision.
Helen O’Rourke, director general of the women’s association, said that the countdown clock has been a great success “It’s used in All-Ireland, provincial and qualifying matches as well as the senior All-Ireland club matches. It took a while to get used to but everyone’s got into the habit now. We’ve had no difficulties with it.”
The clock requires the referee to signal when he wants the clock to be stopped for breaks in play. Initially in the women’s game an extra official was assigned to the time-keeper and if the referee omitted to stop the clock that official would do so.
If a free is awarded or a shot for a score is in the air, the end-of-match hooter is delayed until the kick has been taken. This differs from International Rules where any attempt at a score must similarly be allowed before the match is declared over but the siren still sounds as soon as time is up even if play continues.
He played 3 mins 48 secs of injury time, so he’s just proved himself wrong. His general referring was brutal, which has been bemoaned by both sides on sunday, and when you get the Cork and Kerry crowd agreeing about something then its time to sit up and take notice.
It just seems the standards at all levels of GAA in Laois seem to be going down the toilet, a pity really. Crap hurling team, poor referees, drinking footballers, where has it all gone wrong for the once proud GAA county. Maybe its the influx of Dubs or something.
The ref in Limerick V Clare was v fussy and blew for far too much. That said we were lucky Galvin didn’t get the line.
Didn’t see it Runt, heard it was a decent game. I have a feeling Limerick will really put it up to either Cork or Kerry. The extra game will probably bring on either of them a fair bit, but i’d still give Limerick a good chance.
[quote=“caoimhaoin”]He played 3 mins 48 secs of injury time, so he’s just proved himself wrong. His general referring was brutal, which has been bemoaned by both sides on sunday, and when you get the Cork and Kerry crowd agreeing about something then its time to sit up and take notice.
It just seems the standards at all levels of GAA in Laois seem to be going down the toilet, a pity really. Crap hurling team, poor referees, drinking footballers, where has it all gone wrong for the once proud GAA county. Maybe its the influx of Dubs or something.[/QUOTE]
Poor effort Kev. No need to lash out at other County’s over Carks inadequacies. A friend of mine is mates with a number of the Cork panel (even the lump Noel O Leary and pint robbver supreme Mickey Cussen) and all to a man were very happy with Mr Deegans handling of the game.
Making stuff up now is it? They decided to avoid dealing with it, they probably didn’t want to embarrass the poor fella. Confident in the knowledge they’ll probably have someone who can stay up with the game the next night. Even though it was hardly end to end stuff.
I’ wasn’t lashing out, just inquiring as to whats gone wrong with Laois.
[quote=“caoimhaoin”] Making stuff up now is it? They decided to avoid dealing with it, they probably didn’t want to embarrass the poor fella. Confident in the knowledge they’ll probably have someone who can stay up with the game the next night. Even though it was hardly end to end stuff.
I’ wasn’t lashing out, just inquiring as to whats gone wrong with Laois.[/QUOTE]
I can only go on what the Cork players said Kev. I see no reason to make anything up. You do realise there’s no one else here complaining about the refereeing apart from Cork fans?
Can’t believe you can’t just accept your team should have beaten Kerry out the gate long before the 3rd minute of injury time.
[quote=“myboyblue”]I can only go on what the Cork players said Kev. I see no reason to make anything up. You do realise there’s no one else here complaining about the refereeing apart from Cork fans?
Can’t believe you can’t just accept your team should have beaten Kerry out the gate long before the 3rd minute of injury time.[/QUOTE]
Totall accept they should have, you obviously can’t read. Kerry were so poor and Cork so average though i expect we will win by 4 points plus on saturday night. I feel the tide is turning in a big way. Of course only a win in CP will prove that, but we’re getting there. Hopefull Sunday saw the last of James Masters.
Were you talking directly to Cork players? Well if you were then you’d know there is a directive from Cork management to say absolutely nothing negative about the referee in any games this year. This would include talking to Laois men.
Keep an eye out for Fiacra Lynch. Not on Senior panel yet, but absolutely tearing it up around the county and for the Juniors. He’s a skillful Tommy Walsh, not quite as tall,probably carrying a stone more muscle though. Scored 2-4 on sunday against Kerry Juniors.
Kev, I can only go on what my mate told me. To be honest he would have no reason to lie to me and I trust his word.
Mark Davoren’s season in the Sky Blue colours is over after a scan revealed that he tore his cruciate ligament in the win over Meath on Sunday.
The Kilmacud Crokes forward, who was making his championship debut, buckled under a challenge at the start of the second half. The game was held up for several minutes as medics attended to the prone player before he was stretchered off.
would you give it up you chancer- you didnt even go to their first champioship game & now you are coming on here like a real GGA man- get back off the bandwagon
Why the fuck would Sunday be the last of Masters? He was only left on for 20 minutes, in which Cork played their best football. We went to shit when he was taken off for no particular reason and Cussen came on.
[quote=“myboyblue”]Mark Davoren’s season in the Sky Blue colours is over after a scan revealed that he tore his cruciate ligament in the win over Meath on Sunday.
The Kilmacud Crokes forward, who was making his championship debut, buckled under a challenge at the start of the second half. The game was held up for several minutes as medics attended to the prone player before he was stretchered off.[/QUOTE]
Seems like the Kilcamud Crokes’ lads are always getting injured.
Davoren looked like a bit of a player, a shame.
Why would he be going to the Limerick v Clare game?
Eugene McGee described it as a shambolic change.
put too much hash in tonights waterfall?
im talking about the cork waterford game
[quote=“north county corncrake”]put too much hash in tonights waterfall?
im talking about the cork waterford game[/QUOTE]
Very poor Ncc…
Laois team to play Louth
Michael Nolan; Cathal Ryan, Mark Timmons, Rory Stapleton; Darren Rooney, Ger Reddin, John O Loughlin; Padraig Clancy, Kevin Meaney; Brendan Quigley, Brian McCormack, Peter O Leary; Michael J Tierney, Ross Munnelly, Donal Kingston