[quote=“KIB man”]Think Breathnach and Dunleavy are injured too although I think they are both very average anyway.
He’s been booted of the panel before though and didnt learn.
Down are over this weekend. Used drink a bit with a few of them in America. Lunatics[/QUOTE]
In Newry AFAIK.
[quote=“KIB man”]Didnt suggest that they were out of it…
Just notice you’ve edited your original post. Unless my eyes are deceiving me.[/QUOTE]
Which original post was that now? Dont believe I editted anything?
Its ok I’ll let you away with this one. Once and only once though. I’m pretty reasonable it has to be said.
Point out what you’re on about there like a good fella.
Serious amount of changes by Donegal, some big names gone by the wayside
Donegal XV to play Carlow in the All-Ireland SFC Qualifiers at Ballybofey, Saturday at 7.00pm:
Paul Durcan, Frank Mc Glynn, Neil McGee, Karl Lacey, Barry Dunnion, Eamon Mc Gee, Michael McGuire, Christy Toye, Kevin Cassidy, Rory Kavanagh (Capt), Leo McLoone, David Walsh, Conal Dunne, Micheal Murphy, Stephen Griffin.
Wicklow lost 3 defenders to bad injuries against Westmeath - broken ankle, dislocated shoulder, stuff like that. Fermanagh should win down in Aughrim, they’re well rested and have a good qualifier record.
Didnt hear that about Wicklow, was going to give them the nod to cause an “”“upset”"" in this one.
MIght still do it I think, Aughrim is a fortress, ask any Laois man…
Its ok i’ll let it go.
[quote=“myboyblue”]Didnt hear that about Wicklow, was going to give them the nod to cause an “”“upset”"" in this one.
MIght still do it I think, Aughrim is a fortress, ask any Laois man… [/QUOTE]
Can someone go on oddschecker and pop the prices up for all the games. Its banned at work here. Between the local knowledge of everyone here we should have a fair idea how accurate those prices are.
Bandage will have them up on the vbookie this evening.
We need accurate prices not Bandage’s was that a seven or a seventeen - oh sure whats the difference its not my money bullshit.
He has truly been hanging around with Tom Carter too long.
worst attempt of a climbdown ever I’d say. made a fook up and wont just admit it!
[quote=“Gman”]worst attempt of a climbdown ever I’d say. made a fook up and wont just admit it!
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Thing is I dont think I did. But since I cant prove otherwise I’m prepared to let it go in the spirit of bonhomie and well hail met.
Anyhoo, back on track, Devenney’s talking through his hole here. Any Donegal player worth his salt would give his balls for an Anglo Celt. It doesnt seem to have diluted anything for the likes of Tyrone
Donegal footballer Brendan Devenney reckons that the All-Ireland football qualifiers have diluted the importance of the provincial structure.
The St Eunan’s clubman said that the “championship buzz” has been taken away a bit from the likes of the Ulster Championship, because of the “second chance” allowed to teams via the back-door qualifier route.
“I think Donegal’s problem in the last few years is that we haven’t really had the buzz in the championship,” he told Newstalk.
"The last time we played really well was in the National League final in 2007.
"I think with the GAA now having the back-door system, it has diluted the Championship season a bit.
Devenney believes that when teams are placed in the All-Ireland qualifiers, the championship hunger is nullified.
"You go into the championship and if you are a team like Donegal and lose in the first round in Ulster, more than likely you are going to have about four or five games along the season.
“I think that the buzz of the championship has kind of been lost with us (Donegal) this while, and you saw against Antrim it was flat.”
The Tr Chonaill forward believes that a steady stream of underage talent is required for the county to challenge for senior honours, as Kerry and Tyrone have shown in the past.
“If you look at teams like Kerry and Tyrone - they are winning U-21 and minor titles and they can freshen up their team a bit,” he said.
"We, maybe, achieved above ourselves in 1992 (Donegal’s last All-Ireland senior win) with club teams and the standard of players they had.
"Going into the recent Antrim game we had a few lads who hadn’t played Championship in a few years, and a few injuries also hanging over us.
"You might say why did we play them? We played them because we didn’t have the depth in the squad. What you saw that day was a squad of players, a couple of whom had a few issues hanging over them.
“It didn’t happen on the day. We keep going back to the 18 wides scenario - had we kicked three or four of them who knows what would have happened then?”
Donegal will be hoping to get their All-Ireland campaign back on track this Saturday when they play host to Carlow in the first round of the qualifiers at Ballybofey.
Anyhoo, back on track, Devenney’s talking through his hole here. Any Donegal player worth his salt would give his balls for an Anglo Celt. It doesnt seem to have diluted anything for the likes of Tyrone[/QUOTE]
Devenney is 100% correct the provincial structure is a joke, one of the most inequitable structures in any sport. Its obviously better to go through ‘the front door’ but the back door has proven a tasty alternative in the past…
So you’re saying Donegal players aren’t interested in winning an Anglo Celt? The provincial structure has its problems, of that there is no doubt, but he’s pulling the piss if he believes there’s no vaule in going all out to win an Ulster.
Ah ya its preferrable but the All Ireland is where its at. The shadow boxing ends at the quarter final stage at Croke park whose to say momentum at the point is preferrable?.
Take Dublin for instance - now Ive always thought they have been a good team but they often go in cold against more battle hardened sides and they find out some of their players might not be as good as they looked hockeying Z listers like Laois and Wexford.
A team of luggers like Armagh have done well in the incestous Ulster championship but have struggled in Croke Park in recent years where the refereeing is better, the pitch is wider and teams are trained to peak for August time.
A Donegal player would do well to realise that the shortest route from A to B is a striaght line, which it is through the provincial structure. Look at this year for example, all they had to do was beat Antrim and Cavan and they were in an Ulster final. A win over Tyrone would put them in a 1/4 then instead of backtracking the infested waters of the qualifiers where they could easily come up against a crack outfit like Laois.
Sometimes its right to know your place.
[quote=“myboyblue”]A Donegal player would do well to realise that the shortest route from A to B is a striaght line, which it is through the provincial structure. Look at this year for example, all they had to do was beat Antrim and Cavan and they were in an Ulster final. A win over Tyrone would put them in a 1/4 then instead of backtracking the infested waters of the qualifiers where they could easily come up against a crack outfit like Laois.
Sometimes its right to know your place.[/QUOTE]
True but sure they have to play the cards they are dealt. Im sure overconfidence was an issue plus the kicked 18 wides. They have an absolute penalty kick to start off with. If they get to the final 8 their odds will reduce to about 12/1. 150/1 is so overpriced its asking for trouble.
How much with publicity powers take on it I wonder?