The Cancer Thread

[TheBird]

Also, they need to hire them. As I’ve said before my wan is Is in the thick of this. They are completely understaffed and under resourced.

[Dziekanowski]

@anon61878697

From my very basic understanding of it ---- it’s management in HSE that is the real problem ---- huge salaries and no health experience and no stomach to actually tackle the issues… they seem to be trying to push every thing back on GPs.

The deeply negative impact of public choice theory on the NHS in Britain in Adam Curtis’s The Trap is quite illuminating.

Public choice theory was a right wing ideology to run public services based on the ideology of the free market which came from the US and was implemented by Thatcher and carried on by Blair. It led to all sort of bizarre negative unintended consequences such as widespread falsification of information because staff were being constantly monitored and performance evaluated and only cared about meeting their own targets whichever way they could, even if meant lying, rather than functioning as part of a team to give an actual good service. It also increased the gap between the rich and poor in terms of education because everything was reduced to being measured numerically. ie league tables etc and the idea of an actual rounded education was thrown out in favour of rote learning on a narrowly focussed curriculum.

Basically it’s the ground zero of modern managerialism.

[farmerinthecity]

@anon7035031

The biggest current issue with health care in Ireland is the lack of front line staff, doctors, nurses, specialists, etc.

If only it was that.

The whole system is a joke.

[farmerinthecity]

@Bisto

Apparently Slaintecare would make big difference but the results wouldn’t be seen for at least 5 years and unfortunately nobody is going to be patient enough to wait that long…

But it is the solution, it has cross party support, so fund the fucking thing and put it in motion.

[Dziekanowski]

You can’t pay people if you don’t raise tax.

This is not just basic economics, it’s basic maths.

By all means continue throw about abuse about “leftists” if it makes you feel better, even though you consistently defend the most inefficient health system in the world, but it just makes you look like a giant tit.

[Bisto]

Totally agree but you know yourself people will kick up after first year or two of change…

[farmerinthecity]

That’s not a good enough reason not to throw everything behind it though and it takes political leadership.

The real frustrating thing is that we actually have something there, a solution, but we don’t have the balls to set about implementing it.

I would have liked to see the Social Democrats in government and give health to Roisin Shorthall. Slaintecare is her baby.

[carryharry]

@anon61878697 me oul mucker, great news in the end.
Only seeing that post now.

[Little_Lord_Fauntleroy]

@Locke

…And herein lies the clusterfuck of what was voted for last week. Promises x 3 by SF and when they get in they won’t have the clout to get a tap done. If FF and FG and PD’s and Lab couldn’t do it over the years then you can be sure as shit sure that some failed SF councillor will be able to

The health system is failure so let’s have more of the same

[Locke]

Your Shinners aren’t going to fix it, especially with failed councillors

[Little_Lord_Fauntleroy]

I support the green party mate

not sure why me having a pop at FFG brought that response

[iron_mike]

The worst if all is, we’ll still be having the same conversation in 5 years

[Little_Lord_Fauntleroy]

if FFG stay in power

[iron_mike]

Doesn’t matter whose in power chief.

[Dziekanowski]

@Little_Lord_Fauntleroy

I support the green party mate

not sure why me having a pop at FFG brought that response

There are lads here who literally don’t know the difference between the Green Party and Sinn Fein. To those who don’t support FFGLAB, it seems literally everybody is a “Shinner”.

They’re all seeing Shinners under the bed - actually, come to think of it, some of the FFGLAB crowd charge 400 a week to tenants for the privilege of sleeping there.

[Bandage]

It’s beyond baffling.

“Sinn Féin might ruin health.”

[Dziekanowski]

@Bandage

It’s beyond baffling.

“Sinn Féin might ruin health.”

The politics of failure have failed. It’s time for them to work again.

[flattythehurdler]

There’s lads on here saying “give sinn fein health and housing and see how they do har har har”
Fucking idiots.
Sinn fein can only effect change and be judged on their ability to do so, if they run the govt, and have full control of taxation and spending.

[myboyblue]

Give it to Ole

[flattythehurdler]

He’s ready at a wheel