I agree, there is indeed huge effort to drive the poor out of Dublin. Itâs working. If they could just put the same effort in to locating jobs outside Dublin it would help the country as a whole. With the relatively good roads, advances in technology and generous tax breaks it shouldnât be that hard.
Are you saying theyâre all thicks up in Letterkenny? There are colleges all over the country. Majority of graduates are coming to Dublin to where the companies locate. Incentivise companies to go to where the graduates are. Wages will be lower cost for companies as accommodation costs are lower etc. A bit of long term planning.
Decent broadband might be a good start
What?
Dublin is growing and growing. The IDA have just secured another 150 jobs for Mayo in Pharma. The way that regions compete is through clusters, industry clusters are a well researched thing.
A company like Salesforce are not going to locate outside of a major city though. Frankly they wonât go to Cork either. They need young and college educated software engineers and sales staff, which often need to be sourced from Europe.
The investment stats by the government show a continued underinvestment in Dublin. Dublin needs DART Underground and denser buildings. DU will allow for more people to avail of rail commute into Dublin as it frees up significant capacity. The regions compete through specialist niches.
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Salesforce are not going to locate there I am sorry.
These kinds of incentive programmes already happen though. There are ITs who have set up certain certificate/diploma/degrees after discussions with employers and the IDA to attract companies. Lots of the western ITs have these for process technology and the likes to fit into the pharma clusters there. It isnât easy though.
In what sense Tim? Financially?
Infrastructure wise it doesnât really have capacity. Where is the growth going to happen?
Dublin has the potential to be the new financial hub of Europe with a lot of the major players skittish over Brexit. Especially the European banks
Population.
Employment.
Incomes.
What other levels?
Yes I agree infrastructure needs to improve. I think the 2040 plan is yet another sop to rooral Ireland.
If theyâre locating in Dublin but still having to source employees from outside Ireland, why are they locating here in the first place?
Letterkenny wouldnât be a very attractive location to attract young in demand international tech workers.
2040 is a holistic view of making the country better as a whole. It needs to be in place.
Dublin needs a separate plan as it is facing unique challenges which will be magnified should Brexit lead to massive investment.
Dublin needs to be in a place where it is ready to accept any and all investment.
Dublin will be the new London in 10 years, which is going to be a massive challenge. The UK has other big cities to cater for a large population.
Weâve got nothing really, Dublin could ingest a lot of the workforce and capacity for growth from pretty much the rest of Ireland.
2040 isnât a sop, but Dublin needs a 2030 plan
Because we speak English.
Because we are in the EU.
Because we are in a stable political environment.
Because we have a cluster of well experienced professionals in this area.
Because we do have a good education system.
There are lots and lots of reasons. Google and the likes bring in foreigners for lots of roles. It is a natural thing- some of it is literally hiring sales people for the German market, who are the best people for that?
John Joe with his Level 7 from the local RTC and wants to live at home all his life is not theyâre in the market for Iâm sorry.
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It is because it contains the Dublin plan.
DART Underground should have been the first project greenlit. It is fantastic for Dublin and the country as a whole. It is sad that there is nobody in Government with vision that can sell the project to the public.
I agree on all of that but these are not just exclusive to Dublin. Your Dublin centric outlook would explain the mindset of the decision makers. You forgot/conveniently ignored one of the biggest incentives for multinationals. This carrot should be used as a stick to coerce companies to locate outside Dublin.
are the M7 roadworks part of it?
what is being implemented currently?
When ye run out of water they wonât be impressed
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Cork is a major, albeit low profile, global hub for a lot of boring cyber security companies like McAfee smart tech etc
https://the-european.eu/story-10417/cork-global-cybersecurity-hub.html
Cork have Dell/EMC and VMware as well as apple and Amazon. They have major major companies down there.
EMC and VMware have done wonders for Ballincollig, which was a shit hole, itâs still a shit hole but at least itâs more aesthetically pleasing
Cork needs a proper development plan. If thereâs ever going to be any sort of counter balance to Dublin, Cork is the obvious place. Itâs a nice city and an attractive place to live even if itâs filled with Cork people. Itâs airport is shit though and thatâs a serious drawback. You could easily double it in size over the next 30-40 years with a bit of effort though, such as a northern ring road.
Cork, like Dublin, Limerick and Galway is limited in the direction it can grow. Due to the fact or cities were established for their proximity to a harbour/port. Realistically the only direction it can grow substantially is to the West.
What will probably happen is that towns around it will end up being ingested into the City. Sure the City of London is tiny.
Iâd imagine thereâs plenty of scope for northerly growth in Cork city. The whole northside is built on a big hill as it is. And in terms of global warming and a possible disastrous sea level rise, thatâs where you want to be. Expanding northwards makes sense as regards transport links to the rest of Ireland too.
A Cork-Waterford motorway surely canât be that far away.
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