The Celtic Phoenix - A thread to list the economic miracles of Michael Noonan & Fine Gael

Again, look at what Salesforce do.

They are simply not going to locate regionally to do what they do. It doesn’t happen anywhere on earth. There are certain industries that are a better fit for that, including pharma.

The Limerick-Cork one was supposed to be finished by now. I’d say we’re a long way off Waterford-Cork

What is the estimated completion date for Cork-Limerick?

Galway-Limerick was completed just over a year ago.

It makes sense to complete the circle by doing Cork-Waterford.

Waterford-New Ross-Wexford is also close enough to completion, probably about a year away.

How long before a couple of relatively small sky scrappers are built in Dublin? Appreciate there are planning laws at the moment limiting the height of buildings but surely a small cluster of these would do a lot to alleviate the lack of office space in the city

Blackpool is already running into Blarney. After that there isn’t much, so possible scope for development.

Look up Zipf’s law. In Ireland this obscured by the fact that we essentially have two second cities, Belfast and Cork. There will be no counter balance.

In the next 10 years they will have to start demolishing some of squat glass blocks around GCD for example and go higher.

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would they have to move the airport? Isn’t there a rule around building height and proximity to an airport.

That’s why you fly into Heathrow, Stansted and Gatwick which are a fair distance and in most cases not in London

Luton has a very limited flight schedule

Yes that’s a niche and cluster. Like pharma or the Apple stuff. I didn’t say Cork couldn’t host high end businesses, just that the likes of Salesforce are suited best to a place like Dublin. Cork has some very good clusters, from pharma to even call centres.

Not sure, think it is an Irish law in relation to building height rather than driven by the Airports. Sure look at London City Airport

Think the highest buildings in the country are around 60 metres or so in height, a couple of these are in Limerick. Sky Scrappers are normally 150 metres +. Surely a small cluster of 90 to 110 metre buildings would help without taking away aesthetically from the sky line

a quick google

looks like green lights for sky scrapers

Except that ABP and the councils won’t allow it.

See Johnny Ronan’s recent efforts.

His ponytail or his beard?

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Dont know how long its been since you were in the airport but the airport is a grand job for what it is.

Huge infill opportunity north towards Mallow also. Train line from mallow to cork as well which could be used for short commuter spins too. Lot of development planned for north ring road area

The river is an amenity and a curse. Needing to cross it is an absolute pain in the hole if you are driving.

They could infill buttevant altogether with a motorway and kill two birds

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There are basically 2 rivers and the main part of the City is pretty much an island between the splits If you want to get in and around the City you have to navigate a lot of one way systems to get in an out across the right bridge.

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The city will be under water in 10 years isn’t much point putting any money into it

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A property agent in Dublin told me before xmas this shortage is a mythical creation. Current stock plus under construction likely see a surplus amt of space

There isn’t a shortage of office space there’s a shortage of “prime” office space. Places where companies can come in with a few hundred workers and everything is top of the line that type of stuff. A shitload being built now though and likely rent increases will level off in that sector. The multinationals are just hoovering up the prime office space at the moment off plans. It can’t last.