The Cork GAA Thread 2011

[fenwaypark]

@chewy louie

Because it won’t attract the average fan no matter how it is marketed/structured. Outside of the diehard hurling fans who would be going anyway you aren’t going to attract anyone new. Just look at how the railway cup has died off.

The fitz is a great competition but aside from lads who are/have been involved in college hurling and lads with a serious interest in hurling it doesn’t attract any of the bandwagon fans and won’t either as they can’t relate to the sides involved

i understand now and agree with both you and runt on the fitz.

[hannibal]

@fenwaypark

kev,
how many kids watch intercounty u21 compared to senior. Its a successful senior team that gets more kids in that county playing hurling not a successful u21.

When Limerick won the three U-21 titles back in 2000-2002, the munster final and AI final attracted crowds of well over 20k. Given that U-16 are free into many of the games at this grade I’d say that huge numbers of kids watch these games. I’d agree to an extent that a successful senior team raises the profile of hurling more but success at U-21, especially in counties that have not been competitive at senior grade can be a huge boost.

[caoimhaoin]

@fenwaypark

again,
not disputing that, but it would be nothing compared to the interest generated from a senior success.

Ok, the lads covered this, but to add, even a Cork U21 would generate a huge following now as by our standards we are off the radar. I think Puke picked this out before, but the lack of preperation the 21’s get is a good thing, managers don’t get enough time to make a fuck of a team and most teams go out and hurl and have basic enough position taking and relatively low level of tactics.

@fenwaypark

Im coming at this from a player burn out perspective and what can be done to reduce this. Minor success would accomplish the same impact as u21 would it not?

Not at all, unless its Laois or Rosscommon or somewhere.

@mick jones

Might be onto something here, maybe combine minor and u21 as an u19/20 competition as was recommended by a burnout report a few years ago?

Wouldn’t work the gap from 16 to 19/20 is ridiculous and you’d lose even more players. I thought it might be worth a try for a while, but on reflection its an awful idea.

@The Runt

I wouldn’t agree with that. An awful lot of hurling supporters would have no affiliation to any college or University and would see no reason to bring their kids along to the games. A lot of people who go to games only go because it’s “Limerick” and would have no real deep understanding of the game, but love to bring the kids along to the matches.

The fixtures for all codes at minor, senior and U/21 level are pretty much set in stone.
At the start of every year a burnout committee should be convened in each county, examine the squads and look at where their will be a potential over-lap of players. Agreement should then be reach on who trains with what teams and how many times. I know each manager will want the player for as much time as possible but a quota or frequency of training sessions should be set and be rigidly enforced by the county board. It would benefit everyone in the long run.

Thats an excellent idea Runt, you should really propose that to your club. Let Limerick, the home of Sports Science in Ireland lead the way.

[fenwaypark]

@hannibal

When Limerick won the three U-21 titles back in 2000-2002, the munster final and AI final attracted crowds of well over 20k. Given that U-16 are free into many of the games at this grade I’d say that huge numbers of kids watch these games. I’d agree to an extent that a successful senior team raises the profile of hurling more but success at U-21, especially in counties that have not been competitive at senior grade can be a huge boost.

good point,
more marketing like this is badly needed

[Turenne]

Cloyne.

[caoimhaoin]

@Turenne

Cloyne.

Did they beat Ballydesmond? Fuck me, they are some crowd.

[Turenne]

Sure did, won by two points. 1-8 to 1-6 I think.

[caoimhaoin]

I happened to be at the league game, some belting match.

[Turenne]

Midleton beating Douglas pretty handy, B’Hassig/B’Town drew I think.

[Turenne]

FromRebelGAA:

Executive ‘recommendation’ just voted in after they refused to acknowledge that they were not entitled to one. It’s got 70 votes. Rest of votes split down the middle, so it got home with a minority. Passage got 52, which was the closest.

[The_Runt]

Well done to Cork junior footballers. A monumental achievement

[Big_Dan_Campbell]

JBM will hardly take the senior job will he???

[Watch_The_Break]

@chewy louie

JBM will hardly take the senior job will he???

If Frank is still be around to sort things at Munster council level he might.

[Turenne]

Sars gone.

[Turenne]

@Watch The Break

If Frank is still be around to sort things at Munster council level he might.

Frank is taking over the development of Pairc ui Chaiomh.

[theLockes]

Castlemartyr bate and out of the championship

[myboyblue]

My congrats to Cork on their tremendous All Ireland Junior win today. Wonderful, just wonderful

[Big_Dan_Campbell]

The Examiner are touting Donal O’Grady as the man to restore a bit of pride in Cork hurling. Or failing that Tony Considine

[fenwaypark]

@chewy louie

The Examiner are touting Donal O’Grady as the man to restore a bit of pride in Cork hurling. Or failing that Tony Considine

all things being equal i would offer him anything he wants to take the job. He is without doubt the outstanding candidate. I would have grave reservations about JBM to be honest.

[Bandage]

[quote=“fenwaypark, post: 550747”]
all things being equal i would offer him anything he wants to take the job. He is without doubt the outstanding candidate.[/quote]

That’s a strong recommendation for Considine. Do you have any thoughts on O’Grady though?