The Corruption Thread

is that not what happened?

Your sidekick is going on about pensioners being robbed (that’s not hyperbole because ye were in the same dorm ?) or go to the same yacht club is it?

That’s a tough gig and I agree that the scheme should address ancillary direct costs in addition to the rebuilding.

I think you need to read to understand rather than with the intent to reply.

I know, some are failing to understand how serious, as i stated " understand the seriousness"

I am not confused re human rights thank you for supposing that I am but my mind is clear on the issue.

Why should the redress be limited to a standard social house? what is a standard social house? Why can’t redress place people back where they were?

It will cost money, money that looks after our citizens, far better than what some of our funds have been spent on previously.

Do you mind me asking where you reside?

I can’t really understand the attitude to limit putting people back where they were.

I don’t tag everyone in posts, did it make you feel better inside thinking you had a gotya?

The facts are that many people put their life savings into banks and Jen they were told they were well regulated and strong by State bodies. They got absolutely nothing. Some “bailout”.

I have already repeatedly said I agree with redress, but not 100% on all types of homes. We shouldn’t be paying for McMansions when others can’t get on the ladder. The scheme as proposed is more than sufficient.

he’s wintering in the Hamptons

I ask again do you think that anyone who has a potential rebuild cost of €200,000 should be able to find €20,000 plus rent a house for around another €10,000 during the rebuild process and continue to pay their existing mortgage as well?

When you invest money - it is into a regulated market - where values rise and fall. It’s gambling.

Now the people that coerced pensioners to invest in banks who got fucked - guess what, nobody went to jail, or at least not the right ones for long enough.

When you invest in a house you expect it to be built to a standard and be liveable. The banks force you to get Engineering reports and tests done before paying down the money. It isn’t a gamble unless its an investment purchase.

These people will have no homes

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I wonder could pressure be put on the lending associations for a stay of execution on the mortgage and interest?

No it isn’t what happened.

The rest of your stuff is second grade “ye fuckers up in Dublin” style ranting and sub-Trumpian conspiracy stuff. That’s sometimes a bit amusing when its being done to hop balls or for comedy effect but to be honest in this case it doesn’t seem like either of those.

I suppose it might make you feel better and you’re definitely very angry about something so maybe that’s a good thing but it diminishes whatever argument you’re trying to make.

there was no criminal negligence in the MICA case? Really?

The ye fuckers in Dublin was a bit of play with TSG ye fuckers down the country shtick, you probably didn’t notice him doing that though, again, the yacht club

I could say I’m not angry and fight that battle but there’s no point, I can’t prove it.

What I will say is, I have an opinion on this matter and I won’t be pushed off it by all the soft talk of cunts trying to shit on people who’ll lose their homes

You are putting in place a relatively here. That is subjective and it’s only use in this argument is try to make out that people do not care.

The rest is again, emotive bullshit. Where I live has absolutely nothing to do with this discussion.

What @Little_Lord_Fauntleroy posted was that the home funded should be relatively standard. This could fund houses up to 3,000sqf, far in away in excess of a normal family home.

Please justify how 350k is not sufficient given the below;

This statement below sounds nice, but is divorced from any grounding or realism.

The costs are already going to be north of €3bn. What we are saying is that there has to be a limit.

You are buying an asset.

You also buy an asset with a home.

Is a home different to a stock? Clearly, but let’s look at this relatively.

Pensioners got zero compensation for State failings on regulation. The State are lining up here to provide redress. It is not absolute, and absolutely should not he given their duty to wider society.

they have to pay a mortgage for a house that isn’t habitable, and pay rental costs and ancillary costs while the rebuilds are happening. They aren’t looking for anything outside of the costs they will face.

If the state doesn’t want to pony up why don’t they open up those responsible for prosecution?

with all due respect that’s a cluster fuck of a post

I said the State should work with the banks on this matter. You already asked me that question and I answered. Yet you come back with this, dearly me. Any other zingers about the Hamptons or pensions being “excess” for us?

why haven’t you said the state should go after those responsible for this and get proper compensation for the people affected?

When Cork floods lads just laugh at them.

Which is fair enough too.

You have a pattern of conceding here, the same with your previous strawman remark.

Are you going to answer this?

Do you think that anyone who has a potential rebuild cost of €200,000 should be able to find €20,000 plus rent a house for around another €10,000 during the rebuild process and continue to pay their existing mortgage as well?

the government should talk to the banks seems to be his answer. @Tim_Riggins

what should they talk about?