The Electric Vehicle Thread

Kia Niros all round so!

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Shame on you all

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the champagne environmentalist types will be in a quandary

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Iā€™ll field this one.

Meh.

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They wonā€™t like this, not one bit. Animals

Pure Scum. Iā€™m almost ashamed to call myself a motorist.

You may find you have difficulty selling it if you keep it long term or

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Proper order for the cunts.

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This has been mooted for a few years. They were on the verge of implementing it at the end of 2016 and then chickened out. Itā€™ll have very little impact on me. If anything itā€™ll help make fast chargers more available.

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Itā€™s time to to start paying for electricity as freeloaders overstay their welcome

Tim Oā€™Brien

The announcement yesterday of extra charging points for electric vehicles (EVs) is welcome news for early adaptors to the green technology. But local authorities rolling out the scheme need to learn from the experience of ESB and ensure charging is not free.

That may seem like a strange argument for an EV owner to make but anyone who has, like this reporter, tried to charge their vehicle at an ecar point will testify to the problem of freeloading.

Because fast chargers are rare, and because electricity is free at the ESB points, some motorists choose to overstay their welcome thus leaving their cars plugged in for an unnecessarily long time, thereby preventing others from charging up.

Where once EV drivers felt camaraderie at charge points, now they are more likely to feel frustration as they witness someone squeezing the last ion of electricity out of a cable, a process that gets slower as the car fills beyond 80 percent.

It is particularly galling to meet someone who paid over ā‚¬100,000 for a big battery Tesla S, hanging on for an hour or more at a ā€œfastā€ charger because they donā€™t want to spend a relatively small sum to complete the charging at home.

Owners of big battery cars like the Teslas and the Hyundai Kona ā€“ the model recently purchased by Minister for Transport Shane Ross ā€“ have as much right as anybody else to use the public charging network. But charging is fast up to about 80 per cent, then the machine slows down to a point where the car would fill as quickly at a ā€œslowā€ or standard 22kWh charger.

Photographs of EVs ā€œhoggingā€chargers for an hour or more are now regularly posted on social media in an indication of growing frustration among users, among whom there is no consensus on etiquette.

At shopping centres as diverse as Bray, Co Wicklow; Lucan Co Dublin and Drogheda, Co Louth people debate whether you are allowed to hook up to the power supply and go shopping.

There are less than 80 fast chargers in the Republic. Between Blanchardstown and Monaghan on the M3/N3 there is one. It is in Navan and this reporter has met a man there who told me he pops in to leave the car to charge and walks up to the town to do his shopping.

Deadlines

There are no public fast chargers within the canal cordon in Dublin. Why? Another issue is the use of public chargers in train stations. Somebody decided these should not only supply free electricity but parking should be free while vehicles are charging thus incentivising some EV owners to overstay.

In the Republic, Tesla is developing its own fast charging network. Ionity has multiple fast chargers at two points on the M8 and M11. EasyGo has chargers at the Supermacs Plaza at Kinnegad and in Monaghan town. But the industry is in its infancy here because nobody can compete with the ESB giving electricity away free.

Pat McDonagh of Supermacs announced he would pick up the cost for electricity at Kinnegad, simply because electric vehicles were queuing at Enfield for the free ESB charger.

The ESB has missed two deadlines to introduce ā€œcharging for chargingā€ and now says it will make an announcement on the matter next month. It needs to happen soon because free fuel is dividing EV users into the truly green, and the truly mean.

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Because we donā€™t want to encourage more cars between the canals perhaps?

is there not one across the road from the conrad?

There is actually.

thought so, the clampers are apparently clamping long stayers as they dont have a permit

Itā€™s not a fast charger. Itā€™s a charger. There are plenty of chargers between the canals.

ESB ecars introduce pricing to support EV network expansion

Dear EV Driver,

As part of an overall ā‚¬20m investment programme to support Irelandā€™s growing demand for electric vehicles, ESB ecars today announces the introduction of pricing on a phased basis for the public electric vehicle charging network in Ireland.

Pricing will be introduced first for existing fast (43 - 50kW) chargers in Ireland from 18th November followed by the introduction of pricing for high power chargers (150kW) once the first ones are installed.

ESB is currently upgrading the standard AC (22kW) network, once this work is completed pricing will then be introduced on these, this is expected to be in 2020.

Why is pricing being introduced when the ESB chargers have been free to use?
It has been free to use the public charging network in Ireland since ESB ecars was set up in 2010. Introducing pricing is required to continue to invest in, upgrade and expand the public network to support the growing demand of EV drivers and to ensure reliability for customers.

What are the price plan options?
There are two price plans: Pay As You Go ( PAYG) or Membership, payable by most credit or debit cards.

PAYG is 33c/kWh with various options such as prepay, auto top up or pay via an anonymous one time credit/debit card payment.

Membership is recommended for people who use the network frequently. It is 29c/kWh with a ā‚¬5 monthly subscription .

An Introductory Offer is available if you sign up before 30th November which offers Membership per kWh rates with no monthly subscription for 12 months.

How to sign up?

Drivers can sign up from Tuesday 29th October via www.esb.ie/ecars

As part of the upgrade a new ecar connect app will be available from next week.

The ecar connect app will be free to download from the Apple App store and Google Play store from next week. New functionality allows the ability to swipe to start or stop a charge. It shows the real-time availability of the charge point network on an integrated interactive map, you can track your usage, view your charge history and manage your account. The updated ecar connect app will also work on the ecarNI network in Northern Ireland.

Can I still use my ESB charge point access card?

Customers who already have an ESB charge point access card can continue to use their card on the standard AC chargers. If a customer would like to use the ESB charge point access card on the fast charger network they must insert their access card number when signing up. However, if the number is illegible, they will need to get a new charge point access card to allow them to charge on the fast charging network. This can be ordered via the sign up process. Alternatively customers can use the ecar connect app for Pay As You Go usage on the fast charger network.

What if I just use the standard AC network, do I still need to sign up?

You can continue to use the standard AC chargers (22kW) as normal after pricing is introduced. However, we recommend that customers should update the ecar connect app and sign up in case they need to use a fast charger in the future.

For more information and to sign up please visit www.esb.ie/ecars from Tuesday 29th October.