The Electric Vehicle Thread

You can do that?

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Big oil lobbying has really gotten to de tick oirish

meanwhile

Global EV Sales Surge in July 2024: One in Seven Vehicles Sold (edie.net)

EVs, Hybrids Set to Exceed 50% of China Car Sales for First Time - Bloomberg

Sales in 2022 arguably down because of demand, so sales in 2023 were always going to be higher as they included a lot of sales made in 2022 but delivered in 23. A comparison with 2022 shows sales are up 11% on that year, so it would need to stabilise a bit before proper fluctuations known.

Sales to Sept in 22 were 14,500, Sept 23 were 21,700, Sept 24 16,100.

I dont recall all the media outlets proclaiming EVs up by 50% this time last year. It wouldnt have the same impact or newsworthiness as the drop in sales now of 25%. And much I’m sure would have been made of the delays in deliveries and how not to read much into it.

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Ner an island to be seen anywhere

If it was about more EV units on the road it could be achieved in a couple of years, but it’s not about more EV units on the road. Norway, the fifth largest exporter of oil and an EV killing cold climate, has put the incentives in place to ensure that an Ev purchase is a no brainer and the Norwegians have filled their boots. Over 94% of cars registered in 2024 so far have been electric and there’s now more of them on the road than petrol cars. The EU has mandated car manufacturers with an unrealistic target of 24% of EV sales mix in 2024 and levied fines of 15,000€ per unit for unit unit they are short of this target. For context, Ford are currently under 10%. Guess who’s covering the costs of these fines…

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They’re banning the sale of ICE cars at the end of the year. That’s not really an incentive, more a directive!

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What about 2nd hand cars? Is there a scrappage scheme?

@Mac here are five reasons why the banning of internal combustion engine (ICE) cars in Norway is considered an incentive rather than a directive:

  1. Financial Incentives: Norway offers substantial financial incentives for electric vehicle (EV) buyers, such as tax exemptions, reduced tolls, and free parking. These incentives make EVs more attractive compared to ICE cars, encouraging people to switch voluntarily[1].
  2. Infrastructure Development: The government has heavily invested in EV infrastructure, including widespread charging stations. This makes owning an EV more convenient and practical, thus incentivizing the transition from ICE cars[2].
  3. Public Awareness Campaigns: Norway has conducted extensive public awareness campaigns highlighting the environmental and economic benefits of EVs. These campaigns aim to educate and persuade the public to choose EVs over ICE cars[2].
  4. Supportive Policies: The government has implemented supportive policies that favor EVs, such as allowing them to use bus lanes and providing grants for EV purchases. These policies create a favorable environment for EV adoption without mandating it[2].
  5. Market-Driven Approach: By creating a market-driven approach through incentives, Norway allows consumers to make their own choices. This approach respects individual freedom and encourages a natural shift towards EVs as people see the benefits[1].

Happy to clarify

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Why would 94% of people buy an EV in 2024 if they didn’t have to ? Sounds like incentive to me.

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@Mac is dogmatic in his fossil fuel defense mate

similar to the FOBTS

Not only are the cars lethal, so are their drivers.

Drivers of electric vehicles more likely to cause road traffic crashes, UL research finds – The Irish Times

241 Tesla on an AA rescue truck, Sutton Cross today.

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Car breaks down shocker.

They can be expensive to fix and the spare parts aren’t available in Ireland off the shelf.
Or so it seems. The expertise isn’t here in Ireland yet.

The wife’s nephew had problems recently. Had to get it trucked to Dublin, where it sat for a couple of months. Back driving it now again but the repair bill was never disclosed.

Signing in

Poor old Betsy reached 401k Kms and could not sustain another 30k Kms in the next 12 months.

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Octavia?

No.