I didnât realise I had. This poll is up a long time. At least it shows Iâm consistent in my views.
Have you an ounce of evidence to back up this, seemingly outlandish, claim?
:rolleyes:
She was an informant and dealt with as were many informants in Dublin and parts of the rest of this island in 1916, the tan war, and the war of independence.
The facts are there are elections. Sinn Fein is a growing party in the 26 counties with more and more willing to vote for them and give them transfers.
This has caused the establishment to shit themselves. FG or the tory party may have not made the phone calls but elements all over the two island are running scared and this is another attempt by elements with like minds and goals to stifle Sinn Fein.
The establishment have been against Adams for years now. They do not want this nordy about the place in 1916 in case there is any parallel made between the struggle of the Irish in 1916 and the struggle of Irish in the six counties of which Gerry Adams was part of.
They would rather Sinn Fein nua like new Labour in Britain, acceptable to the establishment with Mary Lou as leader rather than this nordy.
The Boston tapes are inadmissible in court as both Brendan Hughes and Dolores Price are dead and canât take the stand.
Would the PSNI not be better off investigating Loughlinisland massacre seeing as that they had the car, boiler suits, DNA, the guns used (which the brits brought in) and the RUC ensured a clear run through the roads after this was carried out. âŚshit they destroyed the evidenceâŚah they probably have time on their hands so.
Historians?? It only happened a few years back, itâs more current affairs than history⌠Anyway, youâll have to name these âhistoriansâ palâŚ
Sorry to scupper your âevidenceâ
IMHO Mcconville was an easy target in order to send out a message to everyone else in the area what happens people who help the enemy⌠no other reason âŚI just donât think a mother of 10 or whatever number would have any information on the IRA that would be of use to anyone âŚthe IRA has a history of cowardly actsâŚthis is another oneâŚ
[QUOTE=âtwiceasnice97, post: 939529, member: 1061â]the amount of utter sh1te being talked about this is astonishing. It misunderstands ordinary human nature completely.
the premise for the entire argument being made for the murder of mcconville is that some type of investigation took place and established she was informing. if she was an informer and the ira had the proof why didn`t they just take her away, shoot her and leave her body where it would be found as was normal practice in that utterly abnormal situation.
why was mcconvilles murder different. the idea that she was able to give the british army anything even remotely useful one week after moving to the area is farcical. Did the ira ever produce this radio she is supposed to have had.
When you consider the job freddy scappatici had while in the IRA and what he was actually up to it makes the whole thing utterly sickening. The likelihood is that some of the fcukers killing her were actually informing considering how many informants were in the IRA
the woman was a protestant living in a catholic area. while her husband was alive she was barely tolerated but once he died and lost whatever physical protection she may have had and the usual thuggish sh1tehawks that are attracted to the fringes of organisations like the ira lost the head, kicked the sh1t out of her and then because she was so badly injured in the interrogation they shot her and hid her body away and denied all responsibility for the killing. I guarantee you the fight the previous evening was the spark for the incident.
a gang of utter cunts got scuttered and worked up and looked for a soft target to prove their revolutionary zeal and becasue they were scuttered it got out of hand.
They couldn`t let her go home once they had kicked the shit out of her because it might have given an excuse to more committed serious ira people like mcguinness and co a reason to take a few of them out to a comfortable bog hole to clear them out.
All this loose talk about toutsand the likes is just pig ignorant chanting from the usual mornic tossers.
the stuff about anne mccabe is disgraceful incidentally.
Interrogation ffs, ye stupid ignorant clowns[/QUOTE]
I trust that you see the irony in rubbishing the claims that the woman was an informer and then you going on to give a âguaranteeâ as to how the unfolding sequence of events panned out, based on what can only be idle speculation.
Itâs well known the Divis was a hub of Provo activity.
exactlyâŚthe last place a protestant woman would go unnoticed âŚ
That proves zip. Lets see your supposed evidence
Huh. There was plenty of value for her being an informant with tracking of movements and identifying of members.
She wasnât a Protestant. She converted to Catholicism.
[QUOTE=âEbeneezer Goode, post: 939563, member: 1785â]She was an informant and dealt with as were many informants in Dublin and parts of the rest of this island in 1916, the tan war, and the war of independence.
The facts are there are elections. Sinn Fein is a growing party in the 26 counties with more and more willing to vote for them and give them transfers.
This has caused the establishment to shit themselves. FG or the tory party may have not made the phone calls but elements all over the two island are running scared and this is another attempt by elements with like minds and goals to stifle Sinn Fein.
The establishment have been against Adams for years now. They do not want this nordy about the place in 1916 in case there is any parallel made between the struggle of the Irish in 1916 and the struggle of Irish in the six counties of which Gerry Adams was part of.
They would rather Sinn Fein nua like new Labour in Britain, acceptable to the establishment with Mary Lou as leader rather than this nordy.
The Boston tapes are inadmissible in court as both Brendan Hughes and Dolores Price are dead and canât take the stand.
Would the PSNI not be better off investigating Loughlinisland massacre seeing as that they had the car, boiler suits, DNA, the guns used (which the brits brought in) and the RUC ensured a clear run through the roads after this was carried out. âŚshit they destroyed the evidenceâŚah they probably have time on their hands so.[/QUOTE]
I think until there is a gap from the armed struggle tradition lads in SF then there is a natural limit to the people who will vote for them in ROI - not because of elitist reasons but a large majority have issues with it.
A bigger block to SF being elected to Government is their failure to come up with a credible and costed economic policy. to be elected they will have to move towards the centre like every other Irish political party as you need transfers to be elected in our PR system
[QUOTE=âtwiceasnice97, post: 939529, member: 1061â]the amount of utter sh1te being talked about this is astonishing. It misunderstands ordinary human nature completely.
the premise for the entire argument being made for the murder of mcconville is that some type of investigation took place and established she was informing. if she was an informer and the ira had the proof why didn`t they just take her away, shoot her and leave her body where it would be found as was normal practice in that utterly abnormal situation.
why was mcconvilles murder different. the idea that she was able to give the british army anything even remotely useful one week after moving to the area is farcical. Did the ira ever produce this radio she is supposed to have had.
When you consider the job freddy scappatici had while in the IRA and what he was actually up to it makes the whole thing utterly sickening. The likelihood is that some of the fcukers killing her were actually informing considering how many informants were in the IRA
the woman was a protestant living in a catholic area. while her husband was alive she was barely tolerated but once he died and lost whatever physical protection she may have had and the usual thuggish sh1tehawks that are attracted to the fringes of organisations like the ira lost the head, kicked the sh1t out of her and then because she was so badly injured in the interrogation they shot her and hid her body away and denied all responsibility for the killing. I guarantee you the fight the previous evening was the spark for the incident.
a gang of utter cunts got scuttered and worked up and looked for a soft target to prove their revolutionary zeal and becasue they were scuttered it got out of hand.
They couldn`t let her go home once they had kicked the shit out of her because it might have given an excuse to more committed serious ira people like mcguinness and co a reason to take a few of them out to a comfortable bog hole to clear them out.
All this loose talk about toutsand the likes is just pig ignorant chanting from the usual mornic tossers.
the stuff about anne mccabe is disgraceful incidentally.
Interrogation ffs, ye stupid ignorant clowns[/QUOTE]
Mate - any chance you could put that into a cohernet argument?
If Gerry Adams gave the order then she was an informer.
Iâm basing this on the people accusing Adams categorically stating she received two warnings and a British Army transmitter was found in her apartment.
If they are lying about this then they are lying about Adams. Ditto if they are telling the truth.
Either way what was done to her was heartless.
[QUOTE=âTheUlteriorMotive, post: 939583, member: 2272â]I think until there is a gap from the armed struggle tradition lads in SF then there is a natural limit to the people who will vote for them in ROI - not because of elitist reasons but a large majority have issues with it.
A bigger block to SF being elected to Government is their failure to come up with a credible and costed economic policy. to be elected they will have to move towards the centre like every other Irish political party as you need transfers to be elected in our PR system[/QUOTE]
It might or might not be credible but donât peddle the establishment lies that it hasnât been costed. The ESRI have costed their economic policies for years now.
[QUOTE=âSpecial Olympiakos, post: 939587, member: 366â]
Iâm basing this on the people accusing Adams categorically stating she received two warnings and a British Army transmitter was found in her apartment.
.[/QUOTE]
Huh?
A soup spitter?