Late Monday night to Friday morning is hardly a week. You had 3 shitty days there and you spent half it roaring at your missus.
A working week, you mongâŚand she kept showing me up in front of my new comradesâŚ
Did you have a good time, bro? Itâs a great city once you get away from the vermin.
Fantastic. Some great food was had and plenty of beers in the sun while the other one was trying on half of mangoâŚIâm gonna recommend Gerry heads there for a few days once the Brits leave him go.
Ray Muller summed up my own thoughts on this⌠Selective accounts of death and tragedy are brought up every so often by unscrupulous persons seeking electoral advantage with no regard whatsoever for the victims of these crimes. There is no denying the enormity and brutality of this horrific tragedy but unfortunately it is only one of many thousands carried out during the troubles from both British and Republican sectors. Yet some elements within Irish media insist on focusing on one side of the story. The side that may further their own self serving agenda. Bare in mind these are the same spineless jellyfish who stood idly by and turned a blind eye to the British state sponsored terrorism and murder inflicted on Irish Nationalists over 30 years
Mrs McConville is entitled to her own beliefs and opinions but not her own facts. If Gerry Adams was guilty of anything in relation to this murder then the hype and spin reported by the Irish media would surely prejudice any trial, so it appears to me to be purely politically motivated, which if true is a sad and despicable indictment on our national media! The McConvilleâs and all the other victims of the troubles deserve better
George Orwell wearing lycra in a spinning class on top of a washing machine on a spin cycle playing with a spinning top couldnât have written that with a straight face.
Whoever wrote that doesnât even believe it themselves
[QUOTE=âTheUlteriorMotive, post: 939734, member: 2272â]George Orwell wearing lycra in a spinning class on top of a washing machine on a spin cycle playing with a spinning top couldnât have written that with a straight face.
Whoever wrote that doesnât even believe it themselves[/QUOTE]
Why do you hate being Irish and Irish people?
I donât. I hate people generally.
But anybody who writes that âThe McConvilleâs deserve betterâ as an argument for not going after Adams is through the looking glass.
That is of no relevance, and doesnât invalidate the original statement, as you well know. FF were on the surface, a middle of the road pork barreling party who reflected well the contemporary ethos of the country.
Personally, I despise the acts of thuggery committed by both sides, including the barbarity of elements of the1916 uprising (on both sides). I would have had absolutely no intention of ever voting SF, and the IRA of Adamâs time committed some terrible pointless savage deeds, as did their loyalist counterparts (who I despise even more,as prejudice obviously plays a part).
Would I vote for Adams now? Yes I would. Would I vote for Johnny mad dog adare? Never in a million years, because Adams has been integral to the peace process and a major force for good on this island. I am deeply uneasy that this has been dragged up now, on the words of utter psychopaths and thugs like that price nut job and the other knuckle dragging cro magnon. Their testimony has no value whatever, being deeply prejudiced, and should be burned in my opinion, and Adams left to continue his good work.
[QUOTE=âMark Renton, post: 939733, member: 1796â]Ray Muller summed up my own thoughts on this⌠Selective accounts of death and tragedy are brought up every so often by unscrupulous persons seeking electoral advantage with no regard whatsoever for the victims of these crimes. There is no denying the enormity and brutality of this horrific tragedy but unfortunately it is only one of many thousands carried out during the troubles from both British and Republican sectors. Yet some elements within Irish media insist on focusing on one side of the story. The side that may further their own self serving agenda. Bare in mind these are the same spineless jellyfish who stood idly by and turned a blind eye to the British state sponsored terrorism and murder inflicted on Irish Nationalists over 30 years
Mrs McConville is entitled to her own beliefs and opinions but not her own facts. If Gerry Adams was guilty of anything in relation to this murder then the hype and spin reported by the Irish media would surely prejudice any trial, so it appears to me to be purely politically motivated, which if true is a sad and despicable indictment on our national media! The McConvilleâs and all the other victims of the troubles deserve better[/QUOTE]
Agree absolutely with this, bar some of it
[QUOTE=âTheUlteriorMotive, post: 939748, member: 2272â]I donât. I hate people generally.
But anybody who writes that âThe McConvilleâs deserve betterâ as an argument for not going after Adams is through the looking glass.[/QUOTE]
The dogs on the street know what happened. This is all the evidence needed.
I was going to say that dogs canât give evidence, but Constance Briscoe-Thingy did. Much to her chagrin now Iâd imagine
yes indeed, your own definite most historians
source is far more credible than an individual who had access to the information and was held in high esteem by nationalists. get to fcuk will you.
other than the fact that i didn`t brutally beat anyone, shoot them, shove them in a bog hole, claim not to have done any of it and then attempt to blacken her name after the fact to justify my drunken rampage then you are 100% correct
considering the bone heads i am arguing against i made it as simple as i could. sorry you can`t grasp it. maybe your sna might be able to help?
ironic that you are looking for a cohernet argument. since we are conversing on the net i will let it pass as a down with the kids hip new expression
rather than a very amusing slip in your own coherence
[QUOTE=âfarmerinthecity, post: 939609, member: 24â]It is mad the way everyone is rushing to blindly criticise Mary Lou for claiming Adamsâ arrest is politically motivated.
When only around 5 years ago, the police âswoopedâ on Sinn Fein offices in Stormount and took away loads of information thereby halting Power Sharing.
Of course it then emerged that there was no issue and the swoop was done to protect a British spy in Sinn Fein.[/QUOTE]
another reason for suspicion regarding the murder of jean mcconville considering the level the brits had spies at in the provos
We will never surrender to soup taking simple cunts like tan. Youâre lot left us to rot up north, and played at living in a republic, while we learned to stand up for ourselves and epitomised republicanism. The tans of this world are conservative, servile and weak and want to drag everyone down to their spineless level. His lot have been raped by the church, robbed by bankers and vote in governments that heap on tax after tax and he takes it all with out any lube. Thatâs your ordinary, everyday southern Irish peasant- some of us, however, love our country, heritage and history and will not settle for anything other than an Ireland filled with proud Irish citizens. The self loathing Irish will be the first against the wall.
Yep a classic example of ye freedom loving northerners would be Tom " but Iâm a british citizen"mcfeeley.
@Sidney
@The Wild Colonial Bhoy
@Thrawneen
They are well respected historians on this site, lets hear what they think.
With Adams arrest extended Iâd imagine one possible reason for the judge to grant it is that he has refused to provide any information and has stonewalled. If this is the case could this prove as politically damaging as the arrest?