The Official Nottingham Forest 🌳 Supporters Thread

[QUOTE=“Bandage, post: 1101380, member: 9”]Tony Watt mugging off hapless Nottingham Forest las night:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qf9aqY629JY
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interesting with Tony Watt,
Guy Luzon must really respect the guy, took him standard liege and now with him to charlton
the whole celtic/israel connection gets stronger by the day

Gary Gardner :clap:

Another good foal for Gards last night. I see Tiger Tim was in the stands to watch him as well. I have no doubt he will have a decent part to play under Tim next season .

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Te Famous Club

Useless club …now , leicester are miles ahead in East midlands now , ground is a kip as well

Gary Birttles love child…have you been there recently it’s a kip the whole ground needs Re doing, and forest are juts a piece of English history now, confined to UK gold repeats of “the match”

The Foxes now rule supreme over the east midlands, wonderful stadium, wonderful atmosphere (love the clappers) and super rich owners

Forest would be 3rd best team at present and singing faster than sherwood rise street walkers knickers

Looks like Derby are mugging Forest off good and proper by unsettling Antonio

Dougie sacked

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Sly, orange bastard. A very good decision by the Forest hierarchy.

Gary Charles: Ex-Forest and Derby man on alcoholism, Gazza and helping youngsters

By Owen Phillips
BBC Sport

Gary Charles fought alcoholism throughout his career, but still managed to play for England and feature in Wembley cup finals.

If the former Nottingham Forest and Derby County defender had access to the sort of help and support he is now eager to offer young footballers, he may well have achieved a great deal more.

Now retraining as a counsellor, Charles - still best remembered for his innocent part in the infamous tackle that almost ended Paul Gascoigne’s career - is determined to give something back to the sport that gave him so much.

His journey has been far from smooth, with the low point a six-month prison sentence for dangerous driving and failing to give a breath sample that was brought about by his drinking.

Charles won two England caps during Graham Taylor’s reign, when he played against New Zealand and Malaysia in 1991
Following his time in the East Midlands Charles, who won two England caps, was forced to retire at the age of 32 after injury-plagued spells with Aston Villa, Benfica and West Ham. It was the injuries that led to the boozing.

“While I was playing I was disciplined,” Charles told BBC Inside Out. "As soon as I was injured - if it was for any length of time - I would maybe go out a little bit more than I would normally. But it wouldn’t be all the time.

"I am the first to admit that I have had my issues with drinking and I am a recovering alcoholic. But my drinking was very different from someone drinking every day. It wasn’t all the time, it would be the odd time that would last two or three days.

"I wasn’t a typical alcoholic. I could stop and go long periods of time without drinking.

“But toward the end of my football career it would last a little bit longer - definitely. As soon as I was nearly back to full fitness, I would go back in to my disciplined life again.”

Charles has been sober for nine years. The 45-year-old is director of football at Nottingham University and is working with Priority Health - a specialist organisation to help young footballers.

And he really wants to help.

“If a lot more people were more honest and there wasn’t such a stigma around alcoholics or drug addicts then a lot of people would benefit from it,” Charles said.

"We need to encourage young players not to live with addictions and talk to people.

"I know it is hard for a young player to go to a coach or an assistant manager and say ‘listen I am struggling with drinking’ or gambling or whatever because they do think it could be detrimental to their careers and maybe they will not get the contract of their dreams.

"There are things away from football clubs and there are people you can speak to.

“I want people to know that if you are struggling with addiction, speak to somebody about it because it does help. You don’t have to go through hell when you can address your issues a lot earlier and go on and live a normal life.”

‘I just didn’t want to drink any more’

His time in prison was the real end of his “normal life” and helped set him on the way to sobriety. Charles was struggling to deal with the end of his career and it was at this point that he realised things needed to change.

“Prison was definitely something that opened my eyes to being somewhere I didn’t want to continue going,” Charles said.

"I just didn’t want to drink any more or feel the way I was feeling any more. I had just had enough.

“Football is very much a closed shop but I think it is something that needs to be talked about. Addiction does not pick a certain type.”

Finding my feet at Forest

Football life for London-born Charles began brilliantly as a youngster forcing his way in to Brian Clough’s Forest side at the end of the 1980s.

“It’s a big thing when you actually come in to a club and you are here every day and are watching the first team play,” Charles said.

"The Forest team had a lot of great players at the time. I still remember cleaning the boots of Johnny Metgod, Garry Birtles, Gary Mills and Gary Fleming; they were the four players I looked after.

“That was one of the biggest things I enjoyed because I got to go in to the first team dressing room and listen to what they spoke about.”

THAT Gazza tackle

Despite all Charles achieved, it was his part in the Gazza story that still triggers the memory banks when his name crops up.

Forest reached the 1991 FA Cup final where they played a Tottenham side featuring Gascoigne and Gary Lineker.

Despite going ahead through a trademark Stuart Pearce free-kick, Brian Clough’s Forest lost a thrilling match 2-1.

But the game - enthralling as it was - was overshadowed by two moments of Gazza madness. His first challenge on Garry Parker saw Gascoigne plant his foot in the Forest midfielder’s chest, the second saw the Lazio-bound superstar rupture a cruciate ligament in his right knee because of his ugly lunge on Charles.

Paul Gascoigne tackles Gary Charles
Paul Gascoigne damaged cruciate knee ligaments when he made that infamous tackle on Gary Charles in the 1991 FA Cup final. Garry Parker watches on in the background
“I remember the tackle on Parks,” Charles said. "I thought that was worse than my one to be honest. It was just a mis-timed tackle. It is something that every professional footballer has done.

“I didn’t think much of it. I know a lot was made of it but I was more disappointed with us losing the game. If you speak to a lot of the Forest lads that is one of our biggest regrets. It was a massive day for the club.”

Charles wants to ensure the young footballers he comes into contact with will only have reason to regret matters on the pitch.

How much will Forest win the league by next season with this fella back(returned tonight after 14 months out) and Martin O Neill OBE at the helm? My estimate is 50 points

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36074754

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That’s a brutal article but unless the journalist has left something out, he’s not an alcoholic. Wouldn’t touch a drop unless injured and bored does not an alcoholic make.

The Championship is going to be where it’s at next season.

With double European Champions Nottingham Forest, Kings of Europe Aston Villa, Princes of Europe Big Mick’s Ipswich Town, double league champions and European Cup semi-finalists Derby County, the famous Leeds United, sleeping giants Newcastle United, Sheffield Wednesday and Wolves, Premier League title contenders and conquerors of Bayern Munich, Norwich City, Premier League champions Blackburn Rovers, and FA Cup winners Wigan Athletic all likely to be there, that’ll be 11 of England’s traditional “Big 14” clubs in the big league next season.

Seven times league champions Sunderland could yet glamour it up even more, not that it needs glamming up.

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The Championship Thread will be an automatic sticky

Leicester playing Racing here at a half empty City Ground

Ryan Wilson is linked with the vacant managerial post.

So is Ryan Giggs :confused:

Being linked. Been linked doesn’t make any sense.

It does if you’re from Ballyfermot.