The Pretend Fitness Thread

You are making claims that other people do things wrong and you do them right, you are making claims about the negligence of other practitioners and people from a different field being incompetent and you being the alternative to everyone else who is wrong.

The facts, these things you claim, they can’t be qualified. The whole sports science/strength and conditioning thing has popped up in the last 10-15 years on a massive scale. The beauty about this industry is it’s open to all kind of bluster and bullshit claims as there is no proven method or anything to it. It’s a bunch of chaps in dick measuring competitions. Any chancer can make it to a certain level, which is what you’re doing.

I don’t know whether or not you are good, bad or indifferent. How do you know all these peers of yours that you slate and slander on this forum are good, bad or indifferent? One of your most regular contributions on here is coming on and critiquing pretty much every single high profile sports teams and athletes and making comments about how their trainers and S&C teams are not doing things right. All these people who you slate and slander, your peers, have a much higher profile than you, are clearly more highly regarded in the field than you, have better qualifications than you, have more experience than you. And what you do is come on here and slate.

Now here’s the irony, I’m insanely jealous of you. That’s right, I’m insanely jealous of a lad who comes onto an internet forum playing his violin about one of the great S&C geniuses of our time is being blackguarded in the field while a load of unqualified chancers who know nothing are rolling it in. To me work is work, to be perfectly honest I was of the opinion most people weren’t that passionate about their work but such is life we can’t always get what we want. I worked hard to get where I am and am pretty satisfied with where I have got myself to, I have reached a level where am I happy with the input of my work and the output of it, so c’est la vie.

One thing you won’t find me doing is coming on here and trying to slander my peers and work colleagues, that’s just highly unprofessional and the workings of a very malicious and sneaky individual.

The picture you portray of yourself on here, without the need for myself to add anything to the picture, is that of a bitter, unhappy cretin.

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Of course you can get what you want.

Thats why you are a loser. Its the nordie chip, jesus the brits really kept you down didn’t they?

You don’t know anything about the industry i’m in, or the related ones. Thats all thays clear here.

You just throw out random attacks. Where as i can actually offer an alternative. Its hard for some people to look at alternatives, especially irish people, but they are there. You just don’t have the brain to broaden your views.

I challenge things that don’t make sense. You just follow like a sheep.

Its sad.

No, what is clear is that you use this place as a soap box for you to run down your peers and espouse what a S&C expert you are. I may not know a lot about the field but I can sniff out a bullshitter at ease and that is all you are. Every village and town in Ireland has the local simpleton who was too thick at school to amount to anything so took up a route in your chosen field.

And now we have the nordie chip- as I said, I’m not the guy on here playing a violin about society, people tyring to damage his career through bitterness.

Indeed I am one who believes in the mantra that you get out of life what you put into it. Your incessant personal bitching about the societal and personal factors which are holding you back in your life and career and your general depressive summation of Irish society all point to the fact that you are a very angry and unhappy man who feels the need to abuse others in order to alleviate this.

You feel life owes you, it doesn’t.

You need to accept the fact you are really dumb and have absolutely nothing to be arrogant about.

So now you know little about it?

If you don’t know much about it how do you know i’m a bullshitter?

Or indeed the industry is a fraud?

I think its just you are ignorant, nothing else. Pure ignorence.

I never claimed to know much about it, I did claim to know how to spot a bullshitter.

A guy who comes on and reckons he knows a lot more than respected, experienced, qualified, reputable guys in his field and claiming he has the knowledge that puts these guys to shame is a bullshitter and that’s what you are.

The industry is a fraud as there are so many differing opinions and school of thoughts, it’s basically a bunch of guys saying “no, I’m right” with no discernible way of proving who is right. Generally the guys who make it big are the successful ones and the guys who are stuck going around doing amateur ladies football and hurling teams and helping out at Weight Watchers are bottom of the class.

Back Hurling tonight, looking forward to it.

Trail run then tomorrow morning in the peaceful surrounds of Tintern Abbey.

ah lovely.

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I, and many people like me, make more money than any of the strength & conditioning staff outside the head job in any Rugby or Soccer Premership team or equivilant.

Its largely a shit life with ridiculous hours and constant job insecurity.

Again you show complete ignorance.

I’d say you do alright.

Trail running is fantastic therapy.

Just back from a light jog. Don’t want to sustain another injury but it’s difficult to hold yourself back listening to this:

Set Fiiiiirrrrrreeeee To The Raaaaiiiiiiinnnnn.

Hahaha.

I’m just watching a doc on Kurt Cobain.

We were cut from a different cloth bandage

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I’m thinking of using an outdoor running track that’s near me to mix things up in my 5km runs. I’ve been running the same country road on/off for about a year and it’s a tough route with hills up or down for a lot of it. I’m not making any improvement in my time so i think if i revert to a total flat route like a running track, it’ll be a different ball game altogether and i can get into more of a rhythm. Track is 400m so i will do 12.5 laps and time myself. Anyone do long runs on running tracks and is it incredibly boring?

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Did a little bit last summer for a month or two. It is surprisingly different from road easier on joints but your legs feel very dead. I’d advise you to run two lapsreasonably hard followed by one very easy a few times. Twice the first week, 3 times the next etc. Will bring your 5km time far quicker than just running mundane 5k the whole time.

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Went for the run around the running track there at lunch-time. It was like a soup bowl, really awful drainage in the place. It’s not the proper job at all, yes it is 400m (i guess) but it’s a kind of gravelly surface not the proper job and it’s around a soccer pitch. I was caked in shit after it from the waste down, runners destroyed and will have to be put into the machine. I did 8 laps, had planned on twelve and a half in one go but it was just too much of a rotten slog in the conditions. Socks started getting wet and all. For a finish the last two laps i ran at a strong pace (in the conditions) and did 1.50 and 1.53. Will go back again only when it is bone dry. I was really mugged off by the track today.

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Great for seeing how fast the elite guys run when you run on a track.

800m world record (2 laps) is about 10 seconds faster than your last couple of lap times

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First road run of the year (I usually run trails and hills). 11km, 54.45 in driving wind and rain. The hard winter miles pay off in the summer

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well done you :rollseyes:

nobody cares you utter fucking tard

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What’s a decent time for a 5k on a track? Haven’t timed a run in my life before

If you did it in sub 25mins that’s a great effort. I would be about 25.30 on a good day but that is on an up and down country route as opposed to the flat track. An outstanding time really would be 21-22mins.

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I agree that 25 minutes is a decent time but try to get down to 23:20 with a 4:40 per kilometre target.

I’m struggling to go sub-25 minutes since I returned to running after a calf strain. Even last night I ran the last 150 metres quicker to try go below 5 minutes per kilometre but I ended up with a 5:01 per kilometre average. I was absolutely seething.

That said, @caoimhaoin mentioned before that you’re unlikely to get much faster via running in isolation. It needs to be combined with some strength and conditioning work, core exercises and other cardio activities too.

In this regard, I’m just setting up here for an indoor workout:

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