The Pretend Fitness Thread

Those teams are in a general sense, not just S&C. Organisations where i know there is a holistic approach led by Head Coach/Managers who let people do their job and put it together well.

Saracens are an excellent clib considering the environment they are in (big business). They have great educational paths for players, they have a player centred approach, they promote their own if at all possible.

A particular theme with alot of these, not all but most, teams is the Head Coach that comes in fits into their culture and works with their staff. It cannot be under estimated the upheaval the likes of Pep and Jose cause when they sling out half the staff at clubs. They lose viral eyes and ears and connections. Leicester and Saracens are the 2 champions in the major English sports. Both told their Head Coaches, “this is our set up, you fit into this”.
Right now in the modern world this template works. Things evolve and generations change and certainly there is many ways to skin a cat, but that format works now.

Btw Scotland have made huge progress. A very decent side now.

I will reserve judgment on that one. Decent WC performance but I was slightly disappointed with six nations effort. They have a fine group of players but not sure if they have maximised performance. I think we are comfortably better than them with far more potential in the medium term. They badly need to get Edinburgh up to speed

I’m astounded at the sheer pigheadedness of @croppy_boy.

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Doing your own thing is pigheadedness?

I can be my own personal buddy. I don’t need to follow the crowd.

Why won’t you let me live @Bandage? Why won’t you let me live?

Ya Glasgow have helped immeasurably and i would say they fall into my list too no doubt. You can see a mile away anyway they moved away from the drill drill drill type of training as their loose skills were excellent in past 2 years and were able to play off the cuff so much.

But i was still talking about the national set up. They were very well prepared and seemed to enjoy themselves, always a good sign.

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Reckless kev, reckless.
Crossfit is only bad for you if you yourself do it badly, with too much weight, too quickly. Our gym had 20 mins warm up, 15-20 mins on a single technical lift, and then about 12-15 balls out. The balls out often had little or no weight. Wall balls were the worst, and burpees. It was great, and it worked. Cross fit in itself is like a gun. The gun doesn’t kill anyone, the person that pulls the trigger does. Ours was excellent, but the main thing you must do is put your pride to one side v

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Jamie vardy isn’t, the scrawny little fucker. Big jaws, Big foreheads. They are the signs. Let me blue sky think. In rugby/gaa teams. Hmmm.

I kept it handy. When they said do 60% of your max I didn’t go above 50% and made sure not to get ducked into competing for times.

It’s all about personal gains.

:anguished:

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You’re never to be found when @Little_Lord_Fauntleroy has an urgent query but make one typo and, as if by magic, you appear to spread your pedantic cunt-ery.

Never change dude. Never change.

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How did you know your max?

Nonsense. The coaching and programming is done by the leaders, and they are responsible.

People getting injuried at training in a completely non-contact pursuit is ridiculous and only the “leaders” are responsible. When you pay the money you pay you deserve to be looked after by suitably qualified people.

As i said, they are masters at masking the nonsense with team building and marketing. Your gym are doing their own thing and thats cool, but i have no doubt they would be scolded by the top brass if they knew they were leaving the plan.

For the money paid you should be getting individualized programming, bespoke. Generic stuff is bullshit. And thats why they are shit coaches, they are just reading scripts.

I was going to a Personal Trainer to the first six months of the year and figured it out then.

I used pay a tenner per class. Every weight lifted was carefully demonstrated immediately beforehand. I knew the correct technique, everyone did. Some chose to ignore it so their time or weight was higher on the board at the end, before being rubbed out for the next class. I couldn’t fault it in any way. All you can do is lead the horse to water.

What exercises and how many did you do at 50%

That doesn’t sound like a true Crossfit.

The leading the horse to water doesn’t wash. You need to see issues, you need to cue.

Your experience is much more like a regular gym. And not to be discounted, but is a long way from the norm Crossfit. The other thing is you have detailed some of your training here. You seem like a robust fucker, it all lrobably comes handy enough to you (relative) and you are experienced enough. You are not the type of person i would be concerned about.

We had another Wexford poster on here within the last 12 months saying how Crossfit broke him and he fucked up his back and it was causing hom untold disruption to his life. Thats exercise doing the exact opposite of its goal. In such a controllable environment thats an outrage.

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@caoimhaoin I broke my my arm a few years ago.clean break across the radius and the ulna. It healed fairly well with only a very slight loss in movement thats not noticeable in everyday life or even hurling. It seems to be fucking up my form doing push ups a bit though. Am I at risk of causing myself damage or am I free to work away. Any way to correct it?

Just six bench press six times in six minutes, you have 30 seconds for six and your spotting partner does the next 30 seconds.

@caoimhaoin i have tendentious in my shoulder (self diagnosed). you’re a physio of sorts arent you? im not into lifting weights or anything like that so just want it to fuck off so i can sleep at night and not feel too sore after spending the evening rooting round the garden, i have been lashing on the Voltoral 2% and it helps to keep it under control but is there anything else i can do as it hasnt really improved in 6 months.