The ref in this camogie game

How do you think motions get passed? It should not be beyond Aisling as the head of a players body to delegate her members to contact x amount of delegates each to be sure of the motion. That actual democratic process thing is a nuisance though

With modern day social media it should be done very quickly. Think about the belt SOKY got off Nash from his penalty, rule changed over night. Similiar here.

I don’t think so.

When I was a kid at the camogie final one year I remember Angela Downey losing her skirt in a ruck but running on anyway and sticking the ball into the net. An awfully disturbing image, let me tell you :open_mouth:

1989, it might have been

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I’d be in agreement with you. But that’s not the association we are talking about. @Raylan is correct, the ducks weren’t put in a row to get the motion passed.

You need the likes of Apres Match viciously ridiculing the Camogie Association and all they stand for to properly move the dial on this.

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They are almost beyond parody

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I’m just seeing this on the RTE News, you couldn’t make it up.

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Some may say the Camogie Association is run by backward hicks straight out of Deliverance.

But that’s so wrong. Just look at the history of modernisation and liberalisation of the rules governing camogie, who can play it and what they’re allowed to do. This is a modern, forward thinking association, always moving with the times.

1988: The Camogie Oath where players promise to be women pure of mind and of body, to be happy maidens dancing at the crossroads, is made optional.

1990: Women without a dowry are first allowed play.

1995: Married women allowed play (as long as that marriage is to a Catholic man of moral virtue and the woman has not yet given birth).

1997: The wearing of trousers while entering and leaving dressing rooms is allowed.

1999: Move to 15 a side game and full pitch from 13 a side and short pitch.

2001: Women who have given birth (strictly within wedlock) allowed play.

2003: Women who have married outside the Catholic faith allowed play.

2004: Catholic women who do not attend mass every Sunday allowed play.

2007: The contraceptive pill is taken off the list of banned substances.

2009: Protestants allowed play.

2012: Lesbians allowed play.

2014: Women who have had a child out of wedlock allowed play.

2016: Divorced women allowed play.

2023: Women who have had an abortion allowed play (on condition they fully justify it in person to the Chairman of the Camogie Association at a tribunal hearing).

Shorts, however, no. Never. This is too far. Women, know your place.

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Six decades after designated goalkeepers’ jerseys came into the men’s game, camogie goalkeepers still wear the same jerseys as outfield players.

No issue with that whatsoever tbh

Maybe they lobbied and weren’t listened to. I think they’re perfectly entitled to take this stand. It has been hugely successful. One of the main stories on national papers and radio and will probably lead to a change in policy

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If that’s the case, fine - but that would have made it a fait accompli if they could show that

Surely they would have announced it a the time if delegates had voted against their wishes, because the issue was definitely aired at the time

I couldn’t give a shite what they wear, but spare me the victim complex

@Raylan is doing a savage Dick Clerkin impression on this topic #companyman

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Shilling for Big Camogie

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I’m only agin Aisling cos she’s a girl

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No Stepford Wives among the Kilkenny Camogie crew anyway

I thought it was a very watery protest by the players, like most camogie/LGFA protests are.

Why did both they go and change if it was such a core issue? Stick to your guns, force the referee to abandon it and get every other team to do the same next week. They can’t disqualify everyone. The camogie association wouldn’t be long getting sick of facing requests for refunds from the crowds who had paid in.

The players are correct in their stance, shorts should absolutely be allowed. Go hard or go home, though.

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They should, but the referee I don’t think had any choice but to adhere to the rules as set by the camogie association as regards outfit.
I doubt I’d have even noticed tbh, but once he/she did, I can’t see that he/she could have done anything else.
Provoking an abandoned match would have been foolish. They’ve made their point effectively and it will now you’d imagine be dealt with.
I’m more vexed by the cartel in gear manufacturing.

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The referee had absolutely no choice alright. I’ve no doubt his card was marked by the comm=itt-eee present at the game too.

The irony being that the referee was wearing shorts.

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