Things That Are Wrong

Is this the remedial board?
Is there a more main stream board not full of idiots?

[quote=“TreatyStones, post: 796251, member: 1786”]Is this the remedial board?
Is there a more main stream board not full of idiots?[/quote]

no, but we like to help those less fortunate than ourselves with a bit of care in the community, thats why you can post here

Good lad. You must be the witty one.

[quote=“TreatyStones, post: 796251, member: 1786”]Is this the remedial board?
Is there a more main stream board not full of idiots?[/quote]

Whoa there mate. Ask your Limerick footballer mates what they think first.

They think you’re a cock

[quote=“Blake, post: 796246, member: 1755”]You’d be losing your money so.

The point I believe Julio is making is that because a measurement like average rainfall is such an exact figure which deals with a wide range of values, it is rare that the rainfall for a given month is exactly or very similar to the average for previous iterations of that month. This is not especially groundbreaking, and it can be extrapolated that average rainfall is invariably either above or below the average. This leads to the gripe mentioned, whereby weather forecasting outlets describe such as “unusual” due to levels being above or below average, when this fact is in many unremarkable. A more proper examination of the extremity of weather values would perhaps to plot the measurement on a distribution curve against previous years and working out whether the weather is indeed worthy of being deemed unusual.

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No, over the course of a whole month, one would expect the average rainfall for that month to be of a fairly similar level from year to year, rather than swinging violently from above to below average to give an eventual average somewhere in the middle. You complete fucktard.

Yet again you miss the point. Nobody is saying it swings violently. The point is that due to the nature of the statistic, the rainfall is almost never EXACTLY the same as the value of the average, allowing people to say that is “above average” or “below average”. This in turn is abused by people who use the differentiation to draw inaccurate statements (proclaiming the weather to be extreme), when in fact the rainfall may be entirely normal and seasonal even though it is above the average. Relative distribution is key to this quandary, and is a much better way of assessing weather. Judging from your poorly worded, confusing reply, you appear slow, so perhaps you might want to read the points made again to avoid further embarrassment.

Average weather conditions tend to remain stable. Therefore, rainfall being above or below average is a point worth noting. Stop trying to use long words in an attempt to sound smart. Only wankers do that. Numpty.

glasagusban , please cease this numpty talk. Not cool, aka wrong.

Hmm. Right thread then?

Sweet Jesus.
I know weather conditions remain stable. That was the point Julio made. It was a critique of the fact that average is exploitable stat in reporting circles, with nearly every new value being above or below the exact average. It is a specific value, not a range of values.

Let me do an example. We’ll pick Dublin rainfall for July. The average figure for rainfall in July is 50.5mm. This means that even if rainfall this year for July is 52mm, it can be said to be “above average” and sometimes media outlets use this phrase to imply the rainfall levels were especially high. Now consider that for the month of July rainfall is between 45 and 55mm 75% of the time. THIS shows you that 50.5mm is not a not a particularly noteworthy figure whilst still being technically above average, and shows the importance of range and distribution when analysing statistics. The overall point was about weather folk being sensationalist though.

wrong on so many levels; from the justice for bod FB page

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[quote=“artfoley, post: 796582, member: 179”]wrong on so many levels; from the justice for bod FB page

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Fucking ridiculous.

Polictians pay and perks. Makes ya sick reading the long list.

1 – Basic wage of a TD: € 92,672
2 – Basic wage of a Senator: € 65,621

Additional payments for TDs are as follows:

3 – Additional payment for a Minister of State: €37,370
4 – Additional payment for super Ministers of State: € 17,205 (plus € 37,370 above)
5 – Minister (€ 76,603)
6 – Tanaiste (€ 91,733)
7 – Taoiseach (€ 107,328)
8 – Ceann Comhairle (€ 76,603)
9 – Leas Ceann Comhairle (€ 37,370)
10 – Chairpersons of Oireachtas committees (Andrew Doyle, Ciarán Lynch, Dominic Hannigan, Alex White, Pat Breen,Jerry Buttimer, Joanna Tuffy, Peadar Tóibín, Damien English, David Stanton, Thomas Pringle, Seán Barrett, John McGuinness , Tom Hayes): €9,500
11 – Member of Oireachtas Commission (Senator John Whelan, Senator Tom Sheahan, Senator Marc MacSharry, Deputy Frank Feighan, Deputy Dan Neville, Deputy John Browne, Deputy Catherine Byrne, Deputy Jack Wall ): €9,500
Chief whips
12 – Chief Whip (Paul Kehoe): no payment specified in One Stop Shop
13 – Assistant Government Whip (Emmet Stagg): €15,000
14 – Whip to Labour Party (Emmet Stagg): no payment specified in One Stop Shop
15 – Asst Whip to Fine Gael (Joe Carey): €7,500
16 – Asst Whip to Labour (John Lyons): €6,000
17 – Whip to Fianna Fail (Sean O’Fearghail): €19,000
18 – Asst Whip to Fianna Fail (John Browne): €9,500
19 – Whip to Sinn Fein (Aengus Ó Snodaigh): €6,000
20 – Asst Whip to Sinn Fein (Jonathan O’Brien): €3,000
21 – Whip to Socialist Party : €6,000
22 – Whip to People Before Profit : €6,000
Additional payments for Senators are as follows
22 – Cathaoirleach (Paddy Burke): €44,336
23 – Leas-Chathaoirleach (Denis O’Donovan): €24,429
24 – Leader of the Seanad (Maurice Cummins): €19,439
25 – Deputy Leader of the House (Ivana Bacik): €9,500
26 – Government Whip (Paul Coghlan): €6,000
27 – Assistant Government Whip (Susan O’Keeffe): €4,000
28 – Fianna Fáil Leader (Darragh O’Brien): €9,500
29 – Independent Group of Nominee Senators’ Leader (Jillian Van Turnhout): €6,000
30 – Independent Group of University Senators’ Leader (Ronan Mullen): €6,000
31 – Fianna Fáil Whip (Diarmuid Wilson): €6,000
32 – Independent Group of Nominee Senators’ Whip (Katherine Zappone): €4,000
33 – Independent Group of University Senators’ Whip (Sean Barrett): €4,000
34 – Select Committee on Members’ Interests of Seanad Éireann (Ivana Bacik, Deirdre Clune,David Cullinane, Maurice Cummins, Ronan Mullen, Darragh O’Brien, Jillian Turnhout) : €3,100 per annum
Pensions
35 – TDs and senators contribute 6% of their salary a year for up to a maximum of 20 years in order to benefit from the Dail pension scheme. It is a final salary scheme which allows for a maximum of ½ the final salary to be paid for life from aged 65 – 1/40th of final salary is accrued for each year of service. It provides for a lump sum upon retirement and it is possible to take early retirement from age 50.
Allowances
36 – Travel and Accommodation: €12,000 – €37,850 per annum depending on distance from the Leinster House. Senators get paid €7,000 – €32,850 per annum and so-called “office holders” get paid €8,400 – €36,150 per annum
Public Representation Allowance: €15,000 for TDs (no evidence of expenditure required – unvouched) or up to €25,700 (supported by invoices and receipts – vouched); Ministers €12,000 (unvouched) to €20,000 (vouched); Senators €9,250 (unvouched) to €15,000 (vouched)
37 – Dual abode allowance: This applies to ministers only and allows Ministers to claim tax deductions on mortgages, rental or hotel accommodation PLUS tax deductions for maintaining property and other expenses which can be up to €6,500.
38 – Ministers can claim a tax deduction on the interest on any loan required to purchase a second residence.
39 – Ministers can claim a tax deduction on maintenance required on any second residence. € 6,500
40 – Ministers can claim the entire cost of rental accommodation if their second residence is rented.
41 – Ministers can claim a tax deduction on the cost of maintaining a second rented residence.
42 – As an alternative to 41 Ministers can claim a tax deduction of €4,500
43 – If Ministers use a hotel or guest house as a second residence they an claim for the entire cost IN ADDITION to €72.66 for subsistence.
44 – If Ministers use a hotel or guest house as a second residence they an claim for maintenance costs (e.g. laundry)
45 – As an alternative to 44 Ministers can claim €3,500
46 – Allowance for Independent TDs
€ 41,152 per annum each for the 18 independent TDs (Stephen Donnelly, Luke Flanagan, Mick Wallace, Shane Ross, Thomas Pringle, Michael Healy-Rae, Michael Lowry, Finian McGrath, Mattie McGrath, Tom Fleming, Noel Grealish, John Halligan, Catherine Murphy, Maureen O’Sullivan PLUS four TDs who have had the party whip removed Tommy Broughan, Willie Penrose, Denis Naughten and Patrick Nulty ).
47 – Allowance for Independent Senators
€ 23,388 for 11 independent senators (John Crown, David Norris, Sean Barrett, Martin McAleese, Feargal Quinn, Ronan Mullen, Fiach Mac Conghail, Marie-Louise O’Donnell, Jillian van Turnhout, Katherine Zappone, Mary Ann O’Brien.
48 – Termination payments:
These are due to of a lump sum upon termination PLUS a monthly payment for up to a year. As long as you have at least six months service in either the Dail or Seanad, you get a termination payment of two months salary. The monthly payment depends on how many years you’ve been a TD or senator eg for five years, you get three months at 75% of your salary. If you have over 14 years service, then you’d be entitled to 6 months at 75% of salary plus the following six months at 50% of salary.
49 – Mileage Allowances
50 – Each minister and minister of state, except An Taoiseach, An Tanaiste and justice minister, is entitled to recruit two drivers apiece at a cost which is charged to each department.
51 – Attendance of a TD at a “parliamentary assembly” carries hotel expenses and a subsistence allowance for “entertaining”
52 – Parliamentary assistants allowance (no requirement by Oireachtas members to report appointing members of their own families)
Up to €41,092 per TD for secretarial assistance, PR, IT and training
€8,000 per TD to set up and kit out a constituency office
Additional perks
53 – Free parking in central Dublin (normal cost €12 per day approx)
54 – Free gym
55 – Free subsidised restaurant
56 – Private members bar with subsidised drinks
57 – Free tax advice service
58 – Free language lessons
59 – Postage: – 1,500 free postage items per month for TDs and 1,000 for senators.
60 – Free ink cartridges: up to the value of €2000 annually
61 – Free unlimited telephone calls (landline)
62 – Mobile phone allowance: €750 every 18 months
63 – Free office in Leinster House for TDs & Senators
64 – VHI free
65 – Free Automobile A insurance
66 – Free car insurance.
67 – Free personal accident and death insurance
68 – Individual state funding for political parties.”

My fucking eyes hurt after that, post the link in future. :frowning:

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Forgot to eat today, aaaaw crud

Blake[/USER] is schooling [USER=1533]glasagusban here.

That’s bollocks.

Jealousy is an awful thing, anyone of us would kill to be on that gravy train.

People using the lift to go up one floor.