So you can only win the championship if you are in Roinn 1, grand. You canāt win it from Roinn 2 but you can win a trophy and you could win your divisional. Can you get relegated from Roinn 1 to Roinn 2?
Does anyone else think that 28 senior teams is a bit too heavy?
So you can only win the championship if you are in Roinn 1, grand.
That wasnāt my reading of it. You can win Roinn 1 if you win your division. The divisional winners come back in for preliminary Q/Fās. Which obviously means they arenāt QFās at all
Can you win a division and be 2nd in your group for Roinn 1? What happens there? Straight through?
Can you win your division and win roinn 1 meaning you are both a QFās and a prelimanary Q/Fās.
Or do those in Roinn 1 not play in the divisional championships at all? That would make sense in fairness.
By my reading of it I think you can win the senior championship and still be in Roinn 2 the following year?
Does anyone else think that 28 senior teams is a bit too heavy?
Madness sure. Politics is the only logical reason.
Time to let the CPA in and rip up every fucking Club Championships in the country and rebuild them.
Hon Liam Griffin.
Is the KK approach of 12 senior and 12 intermediate teams the wrong way to go?
The 'Lockes got to the junior final last year so would be rated at say 26th in KK. That would mean that under Tipps system weād be senior. God that would be great in fairnessā¦
I would suggest thats the best way to go. No point being senior if you donāt earn the right be to there, nor simply circling the drain when you are up there. Laois copied the KK system and now have a far better Club Championships, 8, 8, 8. The Senior is outstanding fare.
Is the KK approach of 12 senior and 12 intermediate teams the wrong way to go?
The 'Lockes got to the junior final last year so would be rated at say 26th in KK. That would mean that under Tipps system weād be senior. God that would be great in fairnessā¦
Limerick have moved to something similar and it seems to be working well, even if thereās some talk that even 12 is too many as the quality isnāt there.
I would suggest thats the best way to go. No point being senior if you donāt earn the right be to there, nor simply circling the drain when you are up there. Laois copied the KK system and now have a far better Club Championships, 8, 8, 8. The Senior is outstanding fare.
Limerick is 12-8-12. Should probably be 8-12-12, itās all over the place junior then. That should be the next thing tackled.
Apart from politics isnāt it obvious that the tipp system is strange. Couldnāt it be talked about or do the clubs have that much power?
Apart from politics isnāt it obvious that the tipp system is strange. Couldnāt it be talked about or do the clubs have that much power?
A lot of clubs want to be able to say they are senior hurling, even if they are shit. Itās stupid, a run down intermediate has turned a lot of clubs around. I suppose thereās also the clubs that went from senior and kept sliding. Thatās the fear.
Waterford are apparently going to a lower number senior team cship and a premier intermediate cship from 2019
Offaly going from 12 to 8 next year in hurling which is probably a good idea. The next grade down is to be called Senior B which is a bit of a stupid compromise. They did he same with football this year
Senior B is a good idea but club teams hate the idea of it. Maybe if the GAA ran a senior b club championship it might help raise the standard in some counties and give it some credence
The thing with the amount of teams is that the divisions are taken very seriously in Tipp and the majority of the senior teams would think they have a realistic chance of winning a divisional title. If
the divisions were taken out of it or intermediate clubs could play in the divisional championship clubs would be a lot more agreeable to change
How is that far better club championship manifesting itself. Has the Laois SH team improved its fortunes or have Laois clubs fared better in the provincial championships?
Apart from politics isnāt it obvious that the tipp system is strange. Couldnāt it be talked about or do the clubs have that much power?
Whatās strange about it? The county are All Ireland champions and they always throw out a club champion that competes well for Munster and All Ireland honours. It seems to work well for Tipp.
Offaly intermediate winners go into the Leinster junior and never contend. Maybe the senior b winners could go on to the intermediate Leinster. Senior B was done here about 20 years ago and was āa load of bollocksā according to a reliable source.
How is that far better club championship manifesting itself. Has the Laois SH team improved its fortunes or have Laois clubs fared better in the provincial championships?
Thereās less dead rubbers and the standard of games has vastly improved. The drawn final last year was very good quality, as anyone who witnessed it or saw the highlights on TG4 showed.
As for the Laois team improving its fortunes, thats definitely happened given where we were looking at going a few years back. Although it might not all be down to the SHC restructure, its definitely an improvement on what went before.
There hasnāt been a club all Ireland winner from Tipp since 1987. There hasnāt been a finalist since 1994. Thereās been four Munster titles since. The county championship structure is inherently flawed.