I’m entirely serious when I say that a love of sadism is an integral part of right-wing ideology
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I would say any attempt to minimize, let alone deny, the holocaust is anti-Semitic. The reality of the holocaust where Europeans tried to exterminate all the Jews on their continent should never be forgotten or minimized. For a whole variety of reasons obviously, including the fact that eight million Jews in Europe at the time represented absolutely no threat to Europe whatsoever, and yet literally every country voluntarily handed over their Jews for execution or executed them themselves (Ukraine for example).
It’s a joke though, so I suppose less anti-Semitic than actual verbal attacks or acts of violence towards Jews today. It’s ironic that you call everyone who disagrees with you anti-Semitic, when you yourself prepetrate the myth that Israelis are treating Palestinians the same as the Nazis treated Jews. Which is prepostorous given that 2 million arabs live in Israel (not the occupied territories) and there is no attempt to lock them up or execute them. If you include all 6 million arabs that live in Israel, Gaza and the West Bank, they are certainly a threat to Jews as they support and vote for fascist groups like Hamas that advocate for the elimination of all Jews. Not a defense of Israel’s policies towards the occupied territories but it’s simply delusional to make the comparison.
This is the primary issue on anti-Semitism with people like Corbyn (and yourself). To Corbyn the Israelis are the villians, even though Israel is a democracy and secular relative to it’s arab neighbors (how many Jews live or could live in Muslim majority countries?), and the Islamists who believe in executing gays, killing all Jews and treating women like cattle are the good guys. He (and yourself) are morally bankrupt.
For Labour - the Prime Ministerial and likeable score are big issues.
The first is always an issue for a challenger taking on an incumbent. The second though is that old “who would you rather go for a pint with” thing - I think it can be far more influential in determining voting patterns than dense manifestos or ambitious policy claims.
On the upside the “in touch with ordinary people” is positive
Can Corbyn not find a pair of glasses that fit him?
Ha! It’s probably true though - people vote against their own interests all the time.
Trump’s foreign policy positions are one of the reasons people cite why Russia would interfere - yet Jeremy Corbyn’s Russian friendly positions are an irrelevance here. 
I only asked for an evaluation of whather @TreatyStones’ joke was anti-Semitic or not, not a rant about Israel/Palestine
But anyway
Yes, obviously
Holocaust as it relates to the extermination of the Jewish population of Europe by the Nazis is always spelled with a capital H
I’m suprised you didn’t know that - I believe its offical policy of Israel as well as the IHRA etc. that it is always spelled with a capital H - not doing so is seen as an attempt to minimize it
Quite right, they did represent no threat to Europe whatsoever
But that hasn’t stopped you painting immigrants as an existential threat, as you did in the Brexit referendum, or immigrants to the US as an existential threat
That uses the exact same rationale as the Nazis - the Holocaust didn’t start with the gas chambers, you know, it started by calling the Jews “a threat”, “communists” (ring any bells), and then their progressive and systematic dehumanisation
Ilhan Omar made a quip when she said “it’s all about the Benjamins” based on the facts that the Israeli president is Benjamin Netanyahu, “it’s all about the Benjamins” is a widely used popular culture phrase in the US, and the fact that Israel is heavily dependent on getting as much funding from the US as possible
Doesn’t seem very anti-Semitic to me
That didn’t stop you painting her as everything short of literally being Hitler
Perhaps you could be consistent and do the same to @TreatyStones
Would it be anti-Semitic to say that Netanyahu is corrupt, given that he absolutely is?
Corrupt being also a classic anti-Semitic trope
Yet if anybody in the public eye says that Netanyahu is corrupt, they’d very likely be accused of anti-Semitism on completely bogus grounds, - ie. because “corruption” is often used as an anti-Semitic trope, the corrupt Netanyahu cannot be called “corrupt”
Very Trump-esque, and that’s policing of words for extreme bad faith means
Israel has a record of doing this - such as when it objected to the Armenian holocaust being called such because it wanted exclusive rights to the word
The completely unfair vilification of Ocasio-Cortez for her use of the term concentration camp is another extreme bad faith policing of language for transparently nefarious means
I don’t - I just call anti-Semites anti-Semites
More projection on your part because you actually do have a proven record of calling people who disagree with you all sorts, most notably, laughably “communist”, as well as “Nazi”, such as “feminazis”
Israel, pro-Israel interests and indeed yourself have a long record of wrongly branding oppenents of theirs as anti-Semitic
This is weaponisation of anti-Semitism - using it as a weapon to try and destroy your political opponents - false charges of anti-Semitism are Kafkaesque because of the grotesque historical echoes of anti-Semitism in the pre-war and war period - if somebody wrongly accused tries to deny it or fight back, the weaponisers use it as more ammunition for their smearing
That’s why it’s so damaging and so disgraceful to use it in bad faith as a weapon - which is sadly widespread in bad faith politics now
I referred to communism above, anybody with any cursory historical knowledge can see the similarities to Joe McCarthy
Meanwhile Israel and the pro-Israel lobby has an extremely high tolerance for real anti-Semitism when it aligns with its geopolitical interests - it completely refuses to call out such anti-Semitism
Those bad fith weaponisers of anti-Semitism refuse to call out real anti-Semitism - and you are a classic example, given you have refused to call out the many examples of real anti-Semitism from people who it is inconvenient to you to expose
Michael Gove is the latest example of this phenomenon - his categorically anti-Semitic conflation of all Jews and Israel was airbrushed out of history by those who act in bad faith
They are taking their land, and genociding and destroying them as a people
They are using a very similar justification for taking Palestinian land as that which Hitler used for invading Czechoslovakia, just as Putin did when invading Ukraine
The lesson of World War II was “never again”
“Never again” means that generalised prejudice and vilification of an ethnic group, religion or people or other non-chosen identity is unacceptable
Yet a very quick look at right-wing politics now shows us that this exact ideology of generalised prejudice and vilification is the key thing underpinning it
Sadly the lesson you took from the Holocaust was that “we should not call out prejudice, vilification or the destruction and genocide of a people until it has been proven to have reached the scale of the Holocaust”
That is perhaps the stupidest lesson anybody has ever taken from history, yet tragically, it is the lesson Israel itself has taken as regards others and is widespread among the Israel lobby and US right-wing fanatics like yourself
It’s literally an inversion of history and the lessons of history, and one which acts against freedom and against the dignity of people and only serves tyranny
You are setting an extremely low bar, which I think says a lot about what you tolerate
Israel itself is a highly racist society as the treatment of Ethiopian Jews shows
There are at least 65 laws in Israel that discriminate against Palestinians and Arabs
That’s literally the sort of language that Hitler used aboout the Jews
I find it incredible that you don’t see the historical echoes
Israel votes for fascist parties and fascist policies and you seem to have no problem with that - Israel’s founding was literally based on terrorism - the Haganah, the Irgum, the Stern Gang, the King David Hotel bombing and ethnic cleansing
The attitude of Palestinians who support Hamas is no different to the attitude of the Irish who objected and object to British rule, yet because of your hatred of Muslims, you somehow think its different when it isn’t
You’ve continually called for the Palestinians to be “cleansed” off their land
Now you say you’re not defending their policies
Make up your mind
And there you go again
Supporting the Palestinian cause, which isn’t just acceptable, but mandatory if you have any belief in justice or shred of human decency or empathy, is not and never will be anti-Semitism, no matter how many times you say it
The paucity of your argument is only exposed by such insane rhetoric
You have zero problems with vilification of gay people and the treatment of women like cattle by Trump and other Republicans, Boris Johnson or Vladimir Putin, so pull the other one
Sid, no one reads these, be concise. If you can’t take labane apart in two sentences you’re at nothing.
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Putin is a wonderful leader, hopefully he gains control of Europe.
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I don’t give a flying shit whether you or anybody else reads them
It’s quietly satisfying that such posts irk you though
Apparently the fact that Russia desperately wants the Tories and not Labour to win is an irrelevance 
Keeping believing whatever you want to believe, sure
Trump is literally operating and supporting Russian foreign policy positions from within the White House
Corbyn has always been a peacenik - there are many far worse things to be - and that’s quite different to being a Russian asset, I’m sure you’ll agree
The Soviet European Union will be wonderful.
They don’t irk me, I just scroll past. I used like your posts, you used to be relevant.
The Taxpayers Alliance is a moneypit for far right US interests
The difference between libertarianism and fascism is paper thin, some would say and with some justification that it is in fact a revolving door
They irk you enough for you to say so
I’m by far the most relevant poster on this forum because I’m the only poster who identifies the most relevant issues of our time - well possibly @Little_Lord_Fauntleroy with SEGREGATED cycle lanes does too
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It’s official - the UK press is a right-wing propaganda shit show
Sid gets it right yet again
This is how democracies die
Sidney is mad
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