The Scotch had their shot at independence and bottled it. They can’t keep calling for a referendum every five years until they get the answer they want.
They’d have to rebuild Hadrian’s wall if they were in the EU and the English out.
Maybe the English nationalists will have an independence referendum and ditch everyone else
They very much can
Any update on the thousands of students you claimed were turned away from the polls yesterday?
No, they were turned away, why would there be an update
Any update on your dinner from last Sunday?
We’re so lucky to have posters here of such “quality” like yourself, ahem
The whole scotch economic independence model needs oil at something like 80 dollars a barrel . This site’s green lobby will surely be aghast at this .
Yes – but Brexit is a pretty extraordinary scenario that could and should lead to one in the next 4 years … we’ll be 10 years out from the 2014 ref then and a whole new generation of voters will want their say while a whole load of old unionist filth will have died off… pretty much like in Ireland.
How much oil does Ireland have
What will push the Scots towards independence is not economics, it is a growing anti-imperialist nationalism like happened in Ireland, pushed by a toxic English nationalism
You can make economic arguments as long as your arm for why there should not be a united Ireland, you could have done the same about Germany in 1990
But the reason people who want a united Ireland want it is not because of economics
Same as any country in Europe which has become independent since 1990
What pushed people towards Brexit was not economics, it was the toxic nationalism of a former colonial power who could not accept it was no longer a colonial power and was suckered into believing the utter fantasy that it itself was colonised
This toxic nationalism was enabled by the failure of Anglo-American economics, and could probably not have occurred without it, but Brexit was not voted for because of the failure of that economics, it was a classic bait and switch to toxic nationalism of the colonial variety
The free citizens of Scotland would have a legitimate right to employ whatever strategy is open to them, including taking up arms, should a Westminister government deny them the vote for independence they emphatically demanded in a democratic election yesterday.
If Dominic Cummings had any hair at all he’d look like your archetypal save the rainforests krusty
He’s making schoolboy errors now such as mixing up secession with sedition. The jocks and the yids have a lot in common
Haggis and Irn Bru for everyone?
Seamie Allister has released a statement.
Statement by TUV leader Jim Allister:-
“The very disappointing outcome in key seats in Northern Ireland requires both a retrospective and prospective examination by Unionism.
“Though it is no comfort, no one can blame TUV because we stayed out of these elections, other than actively supporting the single Unionist candidate in the battleground seats of Fermanagh South Tyrone and North Belfast.
“In retrospect a question which must be asked is whether, when Unionism through the DUP held an unparalleled position of power at Westminster, 2017-19, that power was used to the best advantage. The focus on the financial, rather than the political lacked strategic planning.
“At a time when Stormont was in disarray, the opportunity to force systemic change, by tackling the cancer of mandatory coalition, was not taken. Instead, the constant repetition of ‘no red lines’ in returning to the failure of Stormont wasted the spectacular opportunity afforded to the DUP in the hung parliament to force Stormont reform.
“The absurdity and unworkability of the Stormont system is obvious: if this system applied at Westminster, then, despite his victory, Boris Johnston could not be Prime Minister, but only joint PM with Jeremy Corbyn and the SNP and Liberal Democrat’s would be entitled as of right to be in government. No comment is needed on how absurd and unworkable that would be. Yet, that is Stormont! Tragically, the DUP did nothing to even try to change that in their years of control in Parliament.
“Thus, now, Unionism is faced with the added humiliation of returning, concessions in hand, to a broken Stormont which Sinn Fein will never permit to bring good government, because their overriding goal is not to settle Northern Ireland within the U.K., but to force its exit. In that Stormont is but a tool and to Sinn Fein it is a reception class for an all-Ireland completion of “the process”.
“In its prospective examination, Unionism, I believe, needs to return to the core value of what Unionism is about ‘One Crown, One Parliament, One People’, not the short-termism of power, any power, in a Stormont which has become a spectacle of failure and weakness – a veritable trap.
“For me, British Rule is preferable to Sinn Fein Rule. Undoubtedly it will have its discomforts, but not the inevitable destruction that Sinn Fein rule holds.
“So, now is a time for Unionism to recalibrate and re-embrace the equal citizenship that its founders expounded. This crossroads moment will see Unionism reaffirm its reason d’etre or transition along the Belfast Agreement path of all-Ireland absorption.”
Even without Stormont there are 3 parliaments
Jim Allister needs to step up now as the leader of Unionism. He’s a very capable operator. The DUP are a busted flush.
You support Jim not accepting Democracy but deride Sturgeon for the same?
You’re a stupid fucker.
And his political hero or who he considers the best NI politician got elected in South Belfast too. Maybe Claire and Jim could power share together.?
Huh? Jim Allister accepted the vote of the Scottish electorate in the 2014 referendum.
Better together.
You stupid fucker.
Too old. Ian Paisley Jr is the man to rescue unionism