The Daily Mail be daily mailing
There’s a simple difference between the Irish famine and what Trump is doing that people are missing - the British government were slavish to a completely failed ideology, but didn’t specifically intend for people to die, whereas Trump genuinely does wish for many people to die.
Also Irish people were as much to blame for the deaths of Irish people as anybody. The Irish themselves generally didn’t give one fuck about others, as long as they were alright, Jack.
Maybe, but only time will tell.
It will indeed.
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515 reported dead by the US so far today.
It’s a hoax, they’ve got it completely under control, the number of cases is going to go down to 0 last week like a miracle.
Tomorrow’s Daily Mail front page has gone big on trying to blame China.
Blaming the EU, blaming Barnier, blaming China, blaming anybody with themselves.
Timothy Snyder’s thesis about the central characteristic of fascism being eternal victimhood - fake victimhood - was spot on.
The majority of posters here haven’t a notion how the US operates at Federal, State and local level. Bad as it is it’s nowhere near as bad as boards.ie where you have a bunch of lads that went to Disneyworld once and are experts on all things US.
California has a population of 40 million, not that different to Spain or Italy in practical terms, with a spending budget of over $200 billion. Individual counties and cities within CA have their own budgets. The great majority of the response to this crisis is at the state and local level, the Fed would be asked for help if help is needed.
The measures announced in Ireland yesterday we have had since March 20th. We had less stringent measures for weeks before then, and efforts were in place to minimize transmission since a national health emergency was declared January 31. As of yesterday we had 4,643 cases and 101 deaths, those number will go up substantially obviously.
Similar enough events, an unseen pathogen that can kill you versus an unseen pathogen that kills your food supply. Either way it’s how we respond to it that matters, if we had the equivalent of the famine right now it would be the EU cutting off all medical supplies, medicine etc. to Ireland, and sending an army (OK that it doesn’t have) in to steal what we have.
Everybody knows how the US operates, except yourself, it seems.
The buck stops with one person, Trump.
There’s a reason you fell flat on your face and were banned from boards.ie. It’s because you can’t debate without shouting, insulting people or lying.
Utterly out of your depth.
You have a lot of anger.
You accept the first case in Wuhan was 17 November. By December the Chinese had told the WHO that they had a Coronavirus in Wuhan but you’re still not happy with that. Presumably it takes some time to figure out the exact nature of the virus, what family did it belong to, how was it transmitted, etc. We’re told to never ascribe to malice what can also be ascribed to stupidity. It seems that’s what you’re doing here.
Notwithstanding that the facts are highly open to interpretation, anyone who disagrees with your interpretation that it’s all a conspiracy is a moron, should stop posting, can go fuck themselves etc. You seem to want a medal for starting the thread.
You love the psychoanalysis. I’m sure you can see the tell-tale signs of sexual dis-satisfaction in your posts?
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I have a very healthy and active sex life mate, thanks for asking.
I have an issue with two posters in here, one is obvious, but this Sexface character has been slinging mud my way for weeks. I don’t claim to be an expert, but I have a reasonable understanding of both the history of this outbreak and it’s nature. Sorry but you are wrong, the Chinese did not tell the WHO they had a novel coronavirus in December, they told them they had some unusual cases of pneumonia. They were still claiming it could not be transmitted human to human in January 21, this was utter bullshit.
The genome was sequenced on January 1 by Chinese scientists, that information was not sent to the WHO. All the answers to your questions in terms of the nature of the virus are contained in the genome, including how it was likely to be transmitted.
I wouldn’t use the word malice either, I would use the words criminally negligent.
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Send an SAE to Mr. Genome in Wuhan and he’ll write back with all the answers.
Hilary still hurts
Sweet jesus, please tell me there’s nobody this fucking stupid back home claiming similar nonsense
Apart from his grammatical mistake in calling maths “math”, yer man rightly skewers a few lads here.
Sometimes the problem is math. Sometimes it’s biology. Sometimes it’s economics. Sometimes it’s grammar. Sometimes it’s history. They’re all one package at a time like this.
Over and over again, I’m seeing a critical, life-and-death divide that doesn’t map neatly onto political ideology at all, but does seem to be about whether people possess a full suite of liberal arts literacies.
The errors that grownups on social media are making, often enough, come down to things like the inability to conceptualize percentages, to understand the semantic range of words like “flu,” or to recall any past models for mass mobilization other than wars—compounding each other.
This is exactly what the concept of a “liberal arts education” is about. It’s about how all kinds of different literacies, working together, make for resilient citizenship—the ability to participate in a society as a free and responsible member capable of making mature judgments.
I’ve often criticized the notion that either liberal arts education or deep study in the humanities will correct a warped value system. But the current crisis is an object lesson in what the former is good for, and why the latter belongs in it.
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London is about to become the Bergamo of England, they are building a temporary mortuary up the road in tooting as I type. Pray for for us. Boris is sending out a letter tomorrow to everyone. The worst is yet to come.
I’ll say a prayer and get my mam to do so also
This is exactly what Gemma O’Doherty is claiming at the moment. The whole thing is a hoax. Covid 19 is no more infectious than a normal flu. Over 90% of the dead in Italy would have died this year anyway. The hospitals are really empty. There’s a lot of footage of empty wards in Irish hospitals floating around social media at the moment. Some of this footage has been taken by right-wing conspiracy theorists sneaking in. I’m not sure what they think the point of the hoax is yet, maybe something to do with the vaccine.