'Undocumented Irish'

No idea what idiotball is corncrake.

As for Queens County, I think you’ll find Laois is no longer called that. We were settled on and kicked them back out ourselves, no thanks to those in the Pale spit.:wink:

[quote=“myboyblue”]No idea what idiotball is corncrake.

As for Queens County, I think you’ll find Laois is no longer called that. We were settled on and kicked them back out ourselves, no thanks to those in the Pale spit.;)[/quote]

once the queens county always the queens county - probably why you follow munster cause of the shame of being from the queens county & to create an alternative less hunnish identity for yourself

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[quote=“north county corncrake”]once the queens county always the queens county - probably why you follow munster cause of the shame of being from the queens county & to create an alternative less hunnish identity for yourself

:p[/quote]

Once a Cork man always a Cork man eh? You’re ignorance of this islands great heritage is pretty shameful.

corncrake you wont win, but I do like to watch you try. You’re funny. Silly boy…

[quote=“myboyblue”]Once a Cork man always a Cork man eh? You’re ignorance of this islands great heritage is pretty shameful.

corncrake you wont win, but I do like to watch you try. You’re funny. Silly boy…[/quote]

calm down bud, its only some gentle ribbing- id hate to think my lighthearted jibes get to you so much mate

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Ah now, not even the courage of your convictions anymore, embarrassing. Brilliant to see though. Greatest place to ever get a good laugh this, cheers corncrake, you never disappoint.

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Ah now, not even the courage of your convictions anymore, embarrassing. Brilliant to see though. Greatest place to ever get a good laugh this, cheers corncrake, you never disappoint.[/quote]

MBB is seething

As Rafa would say, “Fact!” Still didnt make it fact though.

Love it baby, love it. Am enjoying being such an integral part of your Saturday.

Dont ever change baby.

The island it is silent now
But the ghosts still haunt the waves
And the torch lights up a famished man
Who fortune could not save

Did you work upon the railroad
Did you rid the streets of crime
Were your dollars from the white house
Were they from the five and dime

Did the old songs taunt or cheer you
And did they still make you cry
Did you count the months and years
Or did your teardrops quickly dry

Ah, no, says he, 'twas not to be
On a coffin ship I came here
And I never even got so far
That they could change my name

Thousands are sailing
Across the western ocean
To a land of opportunity
That some of them will never see
Fortune prevailing
Across the western ocean
Their bellies full
Their spirits free
They’ll break the chains of poverty
And they’ll dance

In Manhattan’s desert twilight
In the death of afternoon
We stepped hand in hand on Broadway
Like the first man on the moon

And “The Blackbird” broke the silence
As you whistled it so sweet
And in Brendan Behan’s footsteps
I danced up and down the street

Then we said goodnight to Broadway
Giving it our best regards
Tipped our hats to Mister Cohan
Dear old Times Square’s favorite bard

Then we raised a glass to JFK
And a dozen more besides
When I got back to my empty room
I suppose I must have cried

Thousands are sailing
Again across the ocean
Where the hand of opportunity
Draws tickets in a lottery
Postcards we’re mailing
Of sky-blue skies and oceans
From rooms the daylight never sees
Where lights don’t glow on Christmas trees
But we dance to the music
And we dance

Thousands are sailing
Across the western ocean
Where the hand of opportunity
Draws tickets in a lottery
Where e’er we go, we celebrate
The land that makes us refugees
From fear of Priests with empty plates
From guilt and weeping effigies
And we dance

kind of related to the thread title

The cadillac stood by the house
And the yanks they were within
And the tinker boys they hissed advice
‘Hot-wire her with a pin’
Then we turned and shook as we had a look
In the room where the dead men lay
So big Jim Dwyer made his last trip
To the home where his father’s laid

But fifteen minutes later
We had our first taste of whiskey
There was uncles giving lectures
On ancient Irish history
The men all started telling jokes
And the women they got frisky
At five o’clock in the evening
Every bastard there was piskey

Fare thee well going away
There’s nothing left to say
Farewell to New York City boys
To Boston and PA
He took them out
With a well-aimed clout
He was often heard to say
I’m a free born man of the USA

He fought the champ in Pittsburgh
And he slashed him to the ground
He took on Tiny Tartanella
And it only went one round
He never had no time for reds
For drink or dice or whores
And he never threw a fight
Unless the fight was right
So they sent him to the war

Fare the well gone away
There’s nothing left to say
With a slainte Joe and Erin go
My love’s in Amerikay
The calling of the rosary
Spanish wine from far away
I’m a free born man of the USA

This morning on the harbour
When I said goodbye to you
I remember how I swore
That I’d come back to you one day
And as the sunset came to meet
The evening on the hill
I told you I’d always love you
I always did and I always will

Fare thee well gone away
There’s nothing left to say
'cept to say adieu
To your eyes as blue
As the water in the bay
And to big Jim Dwyer
The man of wire
Who was often heard to say
I’m a free born man of the USA

[SIZE=6]Obama’s Executive Action Will Protect 5 Million Undocumented Immigrants[/SIZE]
[SIZE=4]Who benefits from the White House plan—and who lost out?[/SIZE]
—By Erika Eichelberger

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On Thursday evening, President Barack Obama announced his hotly anticipated executive action on immigration, which will keep nearly 5 million undocumented residents from being deported. Even though the sweeping measure has elicited threats of retaliation from congressional Republicans, Obama said he moved forward because comprehensive immigration reform is unlikely to go anywhere in the GOP-dominated Congress next year.

“I know some of the critics of this action call it amnesty,” the president said in his speech. “Well, it’s not. Amnesty is the immigration system we have today—millions of people who live here without paying their taxes or playing by the rules, while politicians use the issue to scare people and whip up votes at election time. That’s the real amnesty—leaving this broken system the way it is.”

A year and a half ago, a bipartisan immigration bill passed in the Senate but died in the House. The bill likely had enough Republican and Democratic votes to pass in the House, but Speaker John Boehner, catering to his tea partiers, refused to bring the measure to the floor. If signed into law, the legislation would have provided legal status to about 11 million undocumented immigrants. Here’s a look at who benefits most from Obama’s executive action—and who has lost out, thanks in part to GOP obstructionism.

Winners
Undocumented parents of children who are US citizens or permanent residents: “Undocumented immigrants…see little option but to remain in the shadows, or risk their families being torn apart,” the president said. “It’s been this way for decades. And for decades, we haven’t done much about it.” His executive action will offer temporary legal status to the undocumented parents of children who are US citizens or permanent residents and allow them to apply for work permits—as long as they have lived in the United States for at least five years, pass a background check, and pay taxes.

DREAMers: The president’s move will broaden the 2012 Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, which had temporarily protected from deportation some 1.2 million young people[/URL] who were brought into the country illegally as children—as long as they entered the country before June 15, 2007. Now, children who came to the United States before January 1, 2010, will be eligible to apply for deferred-action status. The so-called DREAMers (named after the proposed [URL=‘http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2010/11/congress-dream-act-reid’]Development, Relief, and Education for Alien Minors Act[/URL])can apply for employment visas, though there is no direct path for them to lawful permanent residence or citizenship. To the dismay of immigration activists, the executive action does not extend benefits to the [URL=‘http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/11/19/your-complete-guide-to-obamas-immigration-order/?wpisrc=nl-wonkbk&wpmm=1#order’]hundreds of thousands of parents of DREAMers.

Families: Often US citizens and legal permanent residents are separated for long stretches of time from family members who are awaiting legal permanent resident status. The executive action will expand a waiver program that will reduce the time these families spend apart.

Noncriminal undocumented immigrants: Obama’s executive action shifts all of the Department of Homeland Security’s enforcement resources toward deporting undocumented immigrants who are criminals—instead of deporting undocumented immigrants who pose no such threat. “We’re going to keep focusing enforcement resources on actual threats to our security,” Obama said. “Felons, not families.” The president’s order also guts an existing program called Secure Communities, which requires police to share arrestees’ fingerprints with federal immigration officials, who can use the information to deport suspects who are here illegally, even if they turn out to be innocent. The program will be replaced with another devoted to deporting only those convicted of criminal offenses.

Highly skilled workers: Skilled workers who have had their legal permanent resident application approved often wait years to receive their visas. Obama’s order will allow these people to move and change jobs more easily.

Immigrants with pending cases: As part of the president’s executive action, the Justice Department will implement immigration court reforms to quickly process themassive backlog of cases.

Immigrant victims of crime: Obama is directing the Department of Labor to expand the number of visas available for victims of crimes and human trafficking.

The Border Patrol: Obama’s executive action shifts resources to the border, though it doesn’t specify how much more money will be flowing to Customs and Border Patrol agents and Immigration and Customs Enforcement along the southern border.(The Senate bill would have allotted some $30 billion over 10 years to hiring at least 19,200 extra border patrol agents.)

Entrepreneurs: The executive action will make it easier for foreign entrepreneurs—who show a potential to create jobs in the United States and attract investment—to immigrate to the US, though there was no mention how the administration will achieve this.

Losers
Undocumented immigrants who have been here since 2011: The failed Senate immigration bill would have allowed immigrants without papers—and their children and spouses—to apply for provisional legal status, if they have been in the United States since the end of 2011. These immigrants could have eventually applied for citizenship.

Undocumented agricultural workers: Under the Senate bill, undocumented agricultural workers would have been eligible for legal immigrant status if they had worked at least 100 full days between 2010 and 2012. The bill would have created a path to citizenship for these farmworkers.

Ag workers with papers: The Senate bill would also have created a new temporary work visa called the W visa for farmworkers. The new program would have permitted these laborers to eventually apply for permanent resident status without an employer’s sponsorship. Less-skilled non-farmworkers could have also applied for a W visa.

Other types of legal immigrants: The Senate bill would have set up a new system that would grant visas to up to 250,000 foreigners a year. Foreign nationals would have accumulated points based on their skill level, education, and employment background. The new system would have cleared the current backlog of applicants for family-based or work visas.

Foreigners attending American universities: More foreigners graduating from American universities in the fields of science, math, and technology would have been able to apply for permanent visas.

Immigrant detainees: If the Senate bill had okayed by the House, unaccompanied minors, mentally disabled immigrants, and other vulnerable people going through the detention and deportation process would have been granted free legal representation. The bill would have limited the use of solitary confinement in immigrant detention facilities.

[QUOTE=“Lazarus, post: 1048065, member: 286”][SIZE=6]Obama’s Executive Action Will Protect 5 Million Undocumented Immigrants[/SIZE]
[SIZE=4]Who benefits from the White House plan—and who lost out?[/SIZE]
—By Erika Eichelberger

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Zero of which are Irish.[/QUOTE]

Emperor Obama strikes again.

This is a disgusting move that rewards those who have knowingly and willingly broken the law.

The only illegal immigrants I would have a degree of sympathy are those that were brought to the country at a young age and had no say in the matter.

what a great opportunity in the land Of Opportunity …a country built by immigrants rewarding the immigrants!.. well done Obama…don’t forget your roots pal…

What does this mean for the Oirish?

The same as it means for any other nation. If you’re illegal and you’ve had a child who is an American citizen you won’t be deported as long as you’re not a criminal and your taxes are up to date.

It’s embarrassing watching our government and others plead for special treatment for Irish people. They seem to think because we’re (predominantly) white, Christian and sure everyone loves us that we’re different to guys coming in through tunnels from Mexico.

[QUOTE=“briantinnion, post: 1048176, member: 6”]The same as it means for any other nation. If you’re illegal and you’ve had a child who is an American citizen you won’t be deported as long as you’re not a criminal and your taxes are up to date.

It’s embarrassing watching our government and others plead for special treatment for Irish people. They seem to think because we’re (predominantly) white, Christian and sure everyone loves us that we’re different to guys coming in through tunnels from Mexico.[/QUOTE]

by "our " are you referring to the White House Brian?

[QUOTE=“briantinnion, post: 1048176, member: 6”]The same as it means for any other nation. If you’re illegal and you’ve had a child who is an American citizen you won’t be deported as long as you’re not a criminal and your taxes are up to date.

It’s embarrassing watching our government and others plead for special treatment for Irish people. They seem to think because we’re (predominantly) white, Christian and sure everyone loves us that we’re different to guys coming in through tunnels from Mexico.[/QUOTE]

pardon my ignorance but how do you pay taxes while being illegal? …i thought it would be all linked to your social security number?

Woops, that’s embarrassing. I meant the Irish government in that context.

Our government (the US one) has rightly refused to do anything until border security is improved, however Emperor Obama has ignored the will of the elected representatives in the House and pushed this measure through.

@Bisto - there’s way of getting a social security number without being legal. Not sure how it works but for example someone who went on a J1 would have gotten a social security number but their work visa is only valid for 90 days. I think you can also get one by doing a few things like getting a driving license first etc.

[QUOTE=“briantinnion, post: 1048176, member: 6”]The same as it means for any other nation. If you’re illegal and you’ve had a child who is an American citizen you won’t be deported as long as you’re not a criminal and your taxes are up to date.
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How can you be paying taxes if your an illegal immigrant?

welcome to 38 minutes ago…