Do you pay any tax?
Water is currently paid for out of motor tax and VAT. Those taxes are not paid equally per head of population. Water is not used equally per head of population. Income tax is not paid equally per head of population - which is clearly a good thing as it attempts to create a more equal society overall.
There are valid concerns about the involvement of O’Brien in all this and the possible privatisation of Irish Water down the line.
But its not enough to say that “we already pay”. Drinkable water costs money. Given the complaints in many areas of the country of the quality of the tap water and the vast amount lost through leakages it’s obvious there’s a serious under-investment in the system.
[QUOTE=“balbec, post: 1031636, member: 193”]Do you pay any tax?[/QUOTE] who are you, Irish revenue??
That’s none of your business…
I’ll be paying it mate, just so crusty cunts like you can continue to scrounge your way through life
You’ll be paying it because you’re gutless, mate.
Not at all mate, I’m happy to help out the less fortunate in life.
[QUOTE=“ChocolateMice, post: 1031663, member: 168”]who are you, Irish revenue??
That’s none of your business…[/QUOTE]
I’ll take that as a “No”.
You can take it anyway you want it, pal. What’s it to you?
Just curious.
[QUOTE=“ChocolateMice, post: 1031612, member: 168”]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjVZWvNJ-lY
:D:clap:
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Those gobshites!
We’d be better off if it was Isil sending them a threatening video.
What way will this work out for halting sites?
What do you give a fuck?
Everyone should pay the same. We’re all in this together.
Now answer the question or fuck off.
LIMERICK is to play host to its own anti-water charges march later this month.
A big crowd is expected to gather at City Hall on Saturday, October 25, for a local protest against the charges which came into force this month.
The march is being organised by the Anti-Austerity Alliance’s ‘We won’t pay’ campaign, and will kick off at 2pm from City Hall.
People taking part are being encouraged to bring Irish Water application packs.
It comes hot on the heels of a demonstration in Dublin, which drew an estimated 100,000 people.
One of the organisers, Cllr John Loftus, AAA, said: “Hundreds have been at meetings across Limerick and we have seen anti-meter protests popping up right across the city. Together with the victory of the AAA in the by-election, this should give people the confidence to hold firm and refuse to pay this unjust charge.”
A similar protest is being planned in Limerick on November 1.
[QUOTE=“TreatyStones, post: 1031764, member: 1786”]LIMERICK is to play host to its own anti-water charges march later this month.
A big crowd is expected to gather at City Hall on Saturday, October 25, for a local protest against the charges which came into force this month.
The march is being organised by the Anti-Austerity Alliance’s ‘We won’t pay’ campaign, and will kick off at 2pm from City Hall.
People taking part are being encouraged to bring Irish Water application packs.
It comes hot on the heels of a demonstration in Dublin, which drew an estimated 100,000 people.
One of the organisers, Cllr John Loftus, AAA, said: “Hundreds have been at meetings across Limerick and we have seen anti-meter protests popping up right across the city. Together with the victory of the AAA in the by-election, this should give people the confidence to hold firm and refuse to pay this unjust charge.”
A similar protest is being planned in Limerick on November 1.[/QUOTE]
Signing in.
You are a great man to attend a protest as long as you don’t have to travel and it doesn’t interfere with your pocket money.
A man of many opinions and no convictions.
[QUOTE=“Julio Geordio, post: 1031775, member: 332”]You are a great man to attend a protest as long as you don’t have to travel and it doesn’t interfere with your pocket money.
A man of many opinions and no convictions.[/QUOTE]
Thanks, pal.
A very innocuous piece about Irish Water protecting its pipe network had a very interesting comment that I think everyone should read about the history of Irish Water. It is a very maddening read…
So, lets see – Irish Water: a synopsis so far.
Ireland goes bankrupt and the Troika calls for more taxes.
Water meters are decided upon and a plan to build Irish Water are hatched.
Siemens, a company with massive resources and know-how in this area – and also with a massive installed base in the UK – offer to install the meters for free.
Phil Hogan declines Siemens’ offer – no answer as to why he decided this was ever forthcoming – “just, no – we have an Irish solution to this”
Both Siemens and industry analysts are baffled as to why a state would go for a far more expensive solution.
Denis O Brien, the man accused by a High Court Judge to have “beyond all doubt” bribed a FG government to gain control of a a state asset (Esat)- and to have subsequently made hundreds of millions by selling same – “purchases” a company called Siteserv which specialises in the installation of water meters.
This is about a year before the water meter tender.
Now, numerous European companies also wanted to buy Siteserv and offered way more money for the company (which then owed €100 million to Anglo Irish Bank and was completely insolvent).
The Irish Government (weirdly again FG) – (or actually you, Mr(s). Irish Taxpayer) gave the company to Denis O Brien with the €100 million owed to Anglo (now state owned – i.e. by you) written off. It’s not written off for you, the taxpayer – you still pay it – it’s just that Denis doesn’t, got it?
Some gamble for Denis to buy a company with €100 million written off and with no guarantee of a lucrative water meter contract.
A business in an area where he has no previous experience or competence.
Siteserv subsequently bids in the EU tendering process and, lo and behold, wins. The contract is for hundreds of millions of Euros.
Now, enter Irish Water.
The CEO of which used to be the financial officer of an organisation which spent €100 million of Irish taxpayer’s money on the, according to the EU, illegal process to build an incinerator in Dublin.
No incinerator was ever built or will ever be built but €100 million, again of your money, is gone – and John is now the CEO of Irish Water.
No minutes of meetings – which spent €100 million of your money were ever recorded – the money is just gone.
John then installs his homeboys and homegirls from the Poolbeg project to Irish Water – citing the abysmal salaries at Irish Water as the reason why nobody else would apply for these jobs.
People who were direct beneficiaries of the illegal Poolbegl scam are now newly fledged semi-state employees.
Paid for by you, the taxpayer – again.
Okay?
The biggest langer in this solar system is the Irish taxpayer.
This is just the latest episode of the calamity that is Ireland Inc.
We haven’t a fcuking chance – no matter who we vote for.
But, we’re great craic.
Heh heh heh
[QUOTE=“ChocolateMice, post: 1031785, member: 168”]A very innocuous piece about Irish Water protecting its pipe network had a very interesting comment that I think everyone should read about the history of Irish Water. It is a very maddening read…
So, lets see – Irish Water: a synopsis so far.
Ireland goes bankrupt and the Troika calls for more taxes.
Water meters are decided upon and a plan to build Irish Water are hatched.
Siemens, a company with massive resources and know-how in this area – and also with a massive installed base in the UK – offer to install the meters for free.
Phil Hogan declines Siemens’ offer – no answer as to why he decided this was ever forthcoming – “just, no – we have an Irish solution to this”
Both Siemens and industry analysts are baffled as to why a state would go for a far more expensive solution.
Denis O Brien, the man accused by a High Court Judge to have “beyond all doubt” bribed a FG government to gain control of a a state asset (Esat)- and to have subsequently made hundreds of millions by selling same – “purchases” a company called Siteserv which specialises in the installation of water meters.
This is about a year before the water meter tender.
Now, numerous European companies also wanted to buy Siteserv and offered way more money for the company (which then owed €100 million to Anglo Irish Bank and was completely insolvent).
The Irish Government (weirdly again FG) – (or actually you, Mr(s). Irish Taxpayer) gave the company to Denis O Brien with the €100 million owed to Anglo (now state owned – i.e. by you) written off. It’s not written off for you, the taxpayer – you still pay it – it’s just that Denis doesn’t, got it?
Some gamble for Denis to buy a company with €100 million written off and with no guarantee of a lucrative water meter contract.
A business in an area where he has no previous experience or competence.
Siteserv subsequently bids in the EU tendering process and, lo and behold, wins. The contract is for hundreds of millions of Euros.
Now, enter Irish Water.
The CEO of which used to be the financial officer of an organisation which spent €100 million of Irish taxpayer’s money on the, according to the EU, illegal process to build an incinerator in Dublin.
No incinerator was ever built or will ever be built but €100 million, again of your money, is gone – and John is now the CEO of Irish Water.
No minutes of meetings – which spent €100 million of your money were ever recorded – the money is just gone.
John then installs his homeboys and homegirls from the Poolbeg project to Irish Water – citing the abysmal salaries at Irish Water as the reason why nobody else would apply for these jobs.
People who were direct beneficiaries of the illegal Poolbegl scam are now newly fledged semi-state employees.
Paid for by you, the taxpayer – again.
Okay?
The biggest langer in this solar system is the Irish taxpayer.
This is just the latest episode of the calamity that is Ireland Inc.
We haven’t a fcuking chance – no matter who we vote for.
But, we’re great craic.
Heh heh heh[/QUOTE]
Serious hat on for a moment - be careful posting comments from people about DOB that may or may not be true for your sake/sake of the site
Not saying he is above criticism but he has a track record of bring defamation cases
[QUOTE=“TheUlteriorMotive, post: 1031789, member: 2272”]Serious hat on for a moment - be careful posting comments from people about DOB that may or may not be true for your sake/sake of the site
Not saying he is above criticism but he has a track record of bring defamation cases[/QUOTE]
think you put on you cowardly quisling hat rather than your serious hat there mate