Waterford Hurling (now incorporating intermediate football) 2013 and subsequent years

If you’re going open draw, you may as well go 12 team league and a top 5 playoff and grow the game with provincial championships on off weekends.

There’s a massive appetite for good hurling, at the gate and on TV. Kildare going down doesn’t do anything for anyone. Likes of Laois, Carlow Antrim need the games, good games in spring summer.

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Waterford need the likes of Patrick Fitzgerald stepping up. Fair enough he was injured this year, but prior to that he hadn’t really delivered on his underage billing. I’d wonder though has he the appetite for it.

No, I will not ā€˜humour’ you. Why? Because the question is both irrelevant (nothing to do with current structures) and unanswerable (rising no higher than mere speculation at best). What does it matter what any one individual, including me, thinks as regards speculation?

I am not a goldfish. I do not live in a perpetual present, with no perspective beyond what happened last weekend.

The whole ā€˜Munster’ thing is beyond risible.

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Could they get Deccie Dalton and Seamus Flanagan to play for Mount Sion or something, get Seamie a job in the radiography department in Waterford. It’s the lack of depth that kills Waterford.

There’s possibly a massive kick in Austin Gleeson next season if he can get himself right. I thought he’s rediscovered his appetite for hurling there now but he’s to bring the body with him.

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I suppose in a convoluted way all the chat about Paddy Hogan being the third best centre back in the country has led to here. The lead up to that 2010 final was wild.

Foot firmly on throat.

Signs that the Munster Round Robin is going a bit stale. It’s all done and dusted after 4 rounds. Poorish enough crowd in Limerick today for their first home game of the campaign. Just over 20,000. Clare end terrace closed, uncovered stand little more than half full.

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Fuck off. You are another cowardly little moron desperate for a soupcon of non stupidity.

You have the brain cell equivalent of an iron deficiency. You are probably desperately jealous when you look in at trays of liver in a butcher’s window.

Some people are actually interested in hurling.

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Dublin beat Limerick last year, Galway turned over Cork and Tipp in 2022 and 23’. Kilkenny beat Clare in 2022 and 23’. I’d wager Galway would probably have beaten Waterford and Tipp in championship this year if they’d crossed paths.

Yes. A typically intelligent, considered and precise point from your good self.

Will never catch on, though…

Stop talking sense…

I will leave you at those pirouettes. Each to their own, even in risibility’s ribbons.

So they beat the 2nd or 3rd best Munster team? How did they fare against the best team? If they made it that far?

That arrogance led to the Munster arms race, you made your own downfall.

Agreed, but he’s the nuts, really good. Could be Waterford’s Jake Morris. Fellas seem to break through more gradally now.

The injury enforced absence has the potential to be the making of him if he applies himself right.

He’s an absolute joy to watch in full flow and is still only 22 so time is still on his side.

Mackey was a real find too this year.

I’m beginning to come around to the idea that if they played Mark Fitz out the field and Leavy full back from the start this year, they may well have qualified.

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I was at Munster Rugby last night and there was no one there. There’s a lot of people would like to be going to things but we aren’t an affluent city and the Tipp game next week is an attractive fixture in a sense that they can stick it to them. Most Limerick people actually like Waterford.

As an aside, 20k at a round robin sporting event in a relatively poor, provincial city in Ireland is not bad.

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Have you ever considered an anger management course?

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Munster rugby supporters are thin on the ground now.

@Kyle scared them all off.

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Twas all Cork people last night tbh

Well, you are long one of the very best contributors around here – and you actually know about hurling. I always enjoy reading your posts – and often learn a lot.

But I think this Munster shiteology is both risible in analytical terms and irrelevant in structural terms. If my aunt had balls etc. Waterford is in Munster. End of. If you want a Munster frame to hurling, you want a Munster frame. Fair enough. But you cannot have the matter both ways, credibly.

I was brought up 17 miles from Waterford. I am often to be found there. Waterford – especially a few pubs and shops – means a million times more to me than Castlebellingham.

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