Wexford GAA 2012

my old man thought he saw him in Sopot. Prob missed a game for that too

Scrunchie was a cracking player back in the day, have only copped there who he is. To be honest I’ll be in awe of one of my childhood heroes so I best not post in this thread again for a while in case I embarrass myself.

best of luck count et al in the intermediate

Scrunchie was a childhood hero? You must be so disappointed with what he has become.

Good win for Fethard on Saturday without your idol, played some great football in the second half. Surprised by the lack of fight in Clongeen though, They just didn’t seem to want it when Fethard raised their game.

Congrats to the Jimmies too. I thought they were a good bit better than Ballyhogue and should have won by more. Starlights will be favourites now but all the pressure is on them. If St James can curb the influence of Tom Wall and James Carthy they can pull off a surprise win.

Croppy Boy, I am eligible to play in the District final but I don’t know if TFK AFC will release me for the match, as it is likely to clash with pre-season training. After his wonder goal in the group game, we are likely to double mark G-man.

Anyway, all these games pale in to insignificance with the game the whole county is talking about due to take place this weekend. I am leaning towards St Annes to beat Sarsfields as they seem so confident of it. The word out of Rathangan is that they expect the soft townies to bottle it.
In the other semi I think Castletown might just have a bit too much know how for St Martins, but really there is very little between any of the four teams left.

Was at the relegation final, clongeen were awful. Emmet Kent is a huge loss to them.

It was the Kevin Rowe show for Fethard, 2.8 out of 2.11 I believe…

Starlights looked decent enough, different team to the one we played in the group game, glynn were awful. Regan gone as big as a house!

Anyway best of luck to all forumites converting the prestigious the new Ross district junior d football final…

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If I could respectfully interrupt this topic and ask if somebody could supply me with some information on Lee Chin, re playing ability, future in Wexford teams etc. He is a cousin or something of my in-laws and I know they will ask me about him at an upcoming family gathering as I am probably one of the few other people they know interested in the GAA. It would be good for me if I had something, interesting and vaguely knowledgeable sounding to repeat, with enough information I may be able to stave off a bombardment about slow production of heirs

Gratefully yours in anticipation

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Thanking you but I knew about the racism stuff, that’s how he came to my attention and I discovered he was related to my in-laws, (they’re in Ireland >30 years, mostly in Wexford and around the SE and they have a really balanced attitude towards racism at this point in that they know you’ll find a minority of them everywhere but they wouldn’t let it ruin your day or the search for the next winner). Sorry now this is gone very windy and boring but I was just looking for a lazy way of finding if he was rated much as a player really

Hi Asha, I think Lee Chin is a wonderful hurling prospect. He’s skillful, athletic and balanced. He can knock over long range points off either side and he covers the ground very well. He’s probably not a natural marker - he’s more someone that uses his skill and ability to play well in his position. He can play anywhere from wing back to wing forward - he’s been playing the last few games for Faythe Harriers at wing back after starting the championship season at midfield. He’ll be either wing back or midfield in the upcoming county semi-final against Rathnure. His Dad’s Malaysian and not Chinese but Chin Can Cook is known as a Chinese takeaway in Wexford town.

He plays full forward in the football bandage?

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Full forward, wing forward doesn’t he.
Has scored 4-2 for Sarsfields in this year’s football championship apparently too.
Better hurler though.

Premium level tickets have arrived for Sunday :pint: :pint: :pint:

To Braz, Kev, Turenne and all you other Cork cunts :guns: :guns: :guns:

Will be there Sunday too.
4 years since the men have played there now. :frowning:

Meant to put this up a while ago too.
Was at this talk in Stillorgan Park a few weeks back. Interesting enough night.
The main points from the night I have put below.

[size=3][font=Calibri]Rory Griffin[/font][/size]
[size=3]Rory Griffin presented the findings of an investigation he had done into the state of hurling in the Elite Counties and also in Wexford and suggestions for its improvement in Wexford. Key findings and recommendations were:[/size]

[size=3][font=Calibri]1.[/font] [font=Calibri]Underage players in Wexford do not get adequate playing time to develop their skills.[/font][/size]

[size=3][font=Calibri]2.[/font] [font=Calibri]While not specialising in one sport is a good thing up to the mid/late teens the overlapping of the football and hurling seasons militates against the development of skills in both codes. Tipperary have addressed this problem by playing their football championship first followed by hurling.[/font][/size]

[size=3][font=Calibri]3.[/font] [font=Calibri]Hurling skills need to be developed at primary school level. This requires the presence of good hurling coaches in such schools plus commitment from parents. In Kilkenny the County Board actively seeks to place hurling minded teachers in their primary schools. In addition to coaches in schools, local clubs must be involved in a relationship with the schools.[/font][/size]

[size=3][font=Calibri]4.[/font] [font=Calibri]Secondary schools in Wexford are not playing at the level needed to produce players of the requisite quality to develop into successful minor hurlers, a fact demonstrated by the lack of underage success over several decades. Joint teams comprising the best players from schools e.g. Gorey Community, Enniscorthy CBS and St. Peter’s, along the lines of the Dublin Schools, would address this problem.[/font][/size]

[size=3][font=Calibri]5.[/font] [font=Calibri]Age eligibility for teams is currently determined on a calendar year basis. Thus a boy born on 31 December is deemed to be the same age as one born on 1 January of the same year, even though there is in reality one year’s difference in their physical, intellectual and emotional maturity. Statistics from a variety of sports demonstrate that this “Relative Age Effect” (RAE) militates against the younger child, who tends to underachieve as a result. A solution to this would be to split the year into two or more age divisions e.g. January to June could be labelled Purple and July to December, Gold.[/font][/size]

[size=3][font=Calibri]6.[/font] [font=Calibri]Regional and Elite squads are imperative and close liaison between parents and coaches is necessary to ensure the appropriate level of support and encouragement for players. [/font][/size]

[size=3][font=Calibri]7.[/font] [font=Calibri]Dropout is a problem at present. One of the reasons for this is the unreliability of fixture lists, with matches too often being cancelled as short notice resulting in disenchantment on the parts of both players and parents. Research suggests that dropout levels are higher in dual clubs as a result of the conflicting demands of hurling and football. Separate seasons could help to resolve such conflict. They would also address to some extent the problem of “burnout” for dual players arising from having to play too many matches in close succession.[/font][/size]

[size=3]Liam Griffin[/size]
[size=3]Liam Griffin (LG), Chairman of the Wexford Hurling Development Committee, addressed the meeting. He posed the question as to whether we want Wexford to go the way of Laois in hurling terms. Some years ago Laois were a tough team to beat; now they are not competitive. For a long period in the twenties and thirties of the last century Wexford were in that position. Without proper action it would be possible to revert to it.[/size]

[size=3][font=Calibri]LG has spoken to various people in other counties about what they are doing to develop their hurlers. Clare have to a large extent tried to replicate Kilkenny’s structures. This includes district, regional and county squads. Also in Clare their schools play at the top level of schools’ competition. LG said it was imperative that Wexford schools combine in order to get exposure to the right standard of hurling.[/font][/size]
[size=3]LG is strongly in favour of splitting the season between football and hurling. He also said that in Galway fixtures for the different grades e.g. Under 16, Under 21 etc. are arranged for different weeks, so that where there is player overlap, a player is not playing two demanding matches within a couple of days of each other.[/size]

[size=3][font=Calibri]St. Peter’s College[/font][/size]
[size=3]Robert O’Callaghan, President of St. Peter’s College described the facilities that exist now in the college. These include the Power Park Sports Complex which has 3 indoor alleys. A strength and conditioning room is yet to be completed. RO’C said that boys coming into St. Peter’s will get an opportunity to improve their hurling skills from 1st Year on, whatever their skill levels on leaving primary school.[/size]

[size=3][font=Calibri]Dave Guiney gave a brief report on coaching developments in Wexford. He also emphasised the importance of combining schools to get the best players from each one playing at the top level of schools competition.[/font][/size]

[size=3][font=Calibri]Diarmuid Devereux[/font][/size]
[size=3]Diarmuid Devereux (DD), Chairman of the Wexford County Board gave a wide ranging address to the meeting. Key points he made were:[/size]

[size=3][font=Calibri]1.[/font] [font=Calibri]Wexford is a dual county, summarised by the strapline: “2 Codes 1 County. We can achieve.”[/font][/size]

[size=3][font=Calibri]2.[/font] [font=Calibri]DD has received three reports on the state of Wexford hurling; one by Ben Bernie, one by his own company prepared for him as Chairman of Coiste na N-og and the latest by Rory Griffin.[/font][/size]

[size=3][font=Calibri]3.[/font] [font=Calibri]The population of Wexford is 144,000, the largest in Leinster outside Dublin. The county has 49 GAA clubs.[/font][/size]

[size=3][font=Calibri]4.[/font] [font=Calibri]For DD the single biggest obstacle to success is the lack of unity and belief that we can succeed.[/font][/size]

[size=3][font=Calibri]5.[/font] [font=Calibri]Youth is the way out of Wexford’s problem. There is a need to train 25/26 year olds as managers.[/font][/size]

[size=3][font=Calibri]6.[/font] [font=Calibri]Wexford has the most indoor facilities of all 32 counties.[/font][/size]

[size=3][font=Calibri]7.[/font] [font=Calibri]Success was recorded in U.21 football in 2011 and 2012. Wexford’s camogie players are the best in the country and have been for some years.[/font][/size]

[size=3][font=Calibri]8.[/font] [font=Calibri]In senior hurling Wexford are just outside the top 8 and in the top 8 at U.21 grade. At minor Wexford are in the top 6.[/font][/size]

[size=3][font=Calibri]9.[/font] [font=Calibri]DD said that these rankings in both football and hurling suggest that Wexford has a problem but not a crisis.[/font][/size]

[size=3][font=Calibri]10.[/font] [font=Calibri]In hurling Wexford has 12 strong senior clubs, one of which will be relegated this year, which DD believes will be good for competition. There are also 12 strong football clubs.[/font][/size]

[size=3][font=Calibri]11.[/font] [font=Calibri]There are one thousand children under 12 playing in both codes. Wexford U.14 and Juvenile teams are in the top 6 in the country. Twenty five percent of young people in Wexford want to play hurling as their game of first choice.[/font][/size]

[size=3][font=Calibri]12.[/font] [font=Calibri]There is a strong Hurling Advisory Committee and also Football Advisory Committee in place, each with a four year mandate.[/font][/size]

[size=3][font=Calibri]13.[/font] [font=Calibri]DD described an 8 Step Programme which he regards as key to improving the state of Wexford GAA. Key elements in the programme are:[/font][/size]
[size=3]1. [font=Calibri]Resources[/font][/size]
[size=3]2. [font=Calibri]Key Committees[/font][/size]
[size=3]3. [font=Calibri]Dual code equality but with different approaches[/font][/size]
[size=3]4. [font=Calibri]Placement of key personnel e.g. teachers etc. This will require support from clubs.[/font][/size]
[size=3]5. [font=Calibri]Target to achieve 25% participation at U.12 level.[/font][/size]
[size=3]6. [font=Calibri]Address issues arising from treble games involvement. (Some players also play rugby and soccer.[/font][/size]
[size=3]7. [font=Calibri]Extend the season to 12 months. (Kilkenny play their U21 hurling championship in winter.)[/font][/size]
[size=3]8. [font=Calibri]Develop elite pathways in hurling and football.[/font][/size]

[size=3][font=Calibri]14.[/font] [font=Calibri]The county’s financial situation is improving. Creditors reduced from €625k to €351k between January and May 2012. However there remains a big income challenge e.g. to raise sponsorship by €50k per annum. A season ticket initiative offering silver, gold and platinum tickets with different privileges at prices of €100/€250 and €500 is to be launched.[/font][/size]

[size=3][font=Calibri]15.[/font] [font=Calibri]Match attendances are up but the statistics show that attendance at hurling considerably outweighs that at football.[/font][/size]

[size=3][font=Calibri]16.[/font] [font=Calibri]A district team (the best of four districts) will play in the Senior Hurling Championship in 2013.[/font][/size]

[size=3][font=Calibri]17.[/font] [font=Calibri]Five district development squads are planned with the aim of getting 140 players at U.14 and U16 involved.[/font][/size]

[size=3][font=Calibri]18.[/font] [font=Calibri]A combined colleges team structure is to be adopted.[/font][/size]

[size=3][font=Calibri]19.[/font] [font=Calibri]Marketing initiatives are to be undertaken as well as physical development of facilities.[/font][/size]

[size=3][font=Calibri]20.[/font] [font=Calibri]DD mentioned that Kilkenny get the same subvention from Croke Park for football as Wexford but do not use if for football. He also questioned the wisdom of having Galway and Antrim in the Leinster hurling championship.[/font][/size]

[size=3][font=Calibri]21.[/font] [font=Calibri]In summary DD described what he considered the key elements in what he termed “The Wexford Way” as being: Maximising participation in Gaelic games; sound and reliable fixtures plans and top class club based coaching.[/font][/size]

[size=3][font=Calibri]Tony Dempsey addressed the meeting briefly. He stressed the importance of using district teams to give players from junior clubs experience at the right level. He also said that comparing Wexford with Kilkenny was invalid because of the scant respect shown for football in Kilkenny.[/font][/size]

No, they beat Galway in the final there last year.

What success did the U21 footballers have in 2012?

Did the Chairman wish everyone a Happy New Year this time as well?

Should have beaten Dublin and were the closest to them in the country apparently.
Chairman was painful alright.

FFS - on that basis then this year was a roaring success for the Westmeath hurlers :rolleyes:

Any reason the intended chair didn’t show up?

DD says it like it is in fairness to him. Seems to be doing trojan work to fix the mess.

Is Rory Griffin a son of Liam’s?

Had a cold.

Not sure. Think he has a son called Rory alright but there was no reference to it on the night.

Thanks much, that’s exactly the sort of thing I can parrot and pass off as my own! Yeah, its his Dad is related to my in-laws, they’re 2nd or 3rd generation Malaysians but ethnically Chinese. I think my in-laws and their various relatives etc. are responsible for about 80% of the Chinese food in Wexford Town and Rosslare now, come to think of it. Hurling all the way so for the young man is the line I’ll take… Are the hurling and football camps very divided in Wexford?