the game wasn’t in Coventry. I think the ban is completely warrented as his actions are completely against the ethos of the gaa and the spirit of the game. He was told before even setting foot in the UK that there would be an objection as he was illegal and he still went ahead with it
As I said, he was stupid and shouldnt have done it and I agree to a suspension. I dont agree to 48 weeks. that is all.
what punishment would you propose to restrict players like Shore crossing over and back collecting cash from clubs they have never set foot in?
do you think 4 or 8 week bans would do the trick?
[QUOTE=“HBV*, post: 1089334, member: 234”]what punishment would you propose to restrict players like Shore crossing over and back collecting cash from clubs they have never set foot in?
do you think 4 or 8 week bans would do the trick?[/QUOTE]
no, I’d imagine 3 to 6 months anyway. 4-8 weeks would not incur any suspension on anyone who leaves at theend of their season but maybe in time for the other clubs finals. The club needs to be punished far heavier than the player too IMO.
Havent thought a whole lot about it other than thinking a year out is an awful long time for any player, regardless of the infringement as the GAA rules have a one set punishment regardless of the offence.
if his illegality was due to an oversight or admin error I would agree. But in this instance it it justified. Why do you think an I/C hurler decided to transfer to a Uk club to play in essences a junior shield match in October. What were the motivating factors and what was his rations for this?
The fact that he tried it, while knowing this was a danger tells you all you need to know about his arrogance. Was he not getting enough coin in Parnells?
I am led to believe that he was leaving Parnells and transferring back to Wexford for 2015
One last payday, that classic conundrum. If it could take down Neil McCauley, then anyone is susceptible.
Parnells have another lad suspended for 48 weeks off the back of this. You would wonder why they allowed them to do it.
That has crossed my mind, could they all really be this dumb or is there something else going on here.
I think he deserves a ban for being stupid and not fully understanding the rules. However, as I said to @The Big Cheese on here its utterly bizarre that the GAA has a structure where transfers aren’t reviewed centrally and approved / declined and that the responsibility relies on a central body to ensure the relevant rules are adhered to rather than doing it after the event. At some point this proposed transfer should have been nipped in the bud and not allowed to happen regardless if the player involved is from Wexford or any other county.
I’m sure the club promised him a few pound or a weekend away or whatever. he hardly approached the club and said he was over the weekend and could he join in on the game. Which is why I think the club is far more wrong in this instance than the player and him being a bit dim and listening to promises has cost him a year playing county hurling.
as @Mac says too, why do these transfer issues come up after games. Why not have it approved disapproved before games and not have the shite after where games have to be replayed or else left be and you have a team who essentially buy or cheat their way to a title.
[QUOTE=“Gman, post: 1089410, member: 112”]I’m sure the club promised him a few pound or a weekend away or whatever. he hardly approached the club and said he was over the weekend and could he join in on the game. Which is why I think the club is far more wrong in this instance than the player and him being a bit dim and listening to promises has cost him a year playing county hurling.
as @Mac says too, why do these transfer issues come up after games. Why not have it approved disapproved before games and not have the shite after where games have to be replayed or else left be and you have a team who essentially buy or cheat their way to a title.[/QUOTE]
because admin in the gaa and especially at the level you speak of is undertaken by volunteers in their spare time.
its a self policed system. its totally open to abuse but the only realistic way to ensure this type of carryon does not become widespread is to hammer the living shit out of those who get caught.
Parnells must be pretty pissed off with these boys after fixing them up with jobs and houses in Dublin only for the boys to get greedy, piss off for the wknd to earn more easy cash and then get a years suspension
I’d say they couldn’t give a flying fuck.
[QUOTE=“HBV*, post: 1089420, member: 234”]because admin in the gaa and especially at the level you speak of is undertaken by volunteers in their spare time.
its a self policed system. its totally open to abuse but the only realistic way to ensure this type of carryon does not become widespread is to hammer the living shit out of those who get caught.[/QUOTE]
but change the rules so to suit the volunteer nature of it. Why is it possible for a player to transfer basically for a weekend? Even if it is self regulated? pretty much all other counties have a transfer period in January, and thats it, you are stuck til the next year. I know its a bit different with county rules and international ones, but change the time period then to suit the transfers that are to happen. Would that not make more sense to actually prevent this kind of crap instead of making an example out of someone, but yet someone else will still be able to try it and slip though the net anyway.
you are talking complete and utter scutter. Transferring to the UK from a Dublin team has the exact same rules and regulations as transferring from a Dublin club to a Wexford club.
Inter county transfers are permissable all year round while transferring within a county is not.
There are no such things as weekend transfers in the UK
Why not make the GAA accountable for allowing the transfers when they happen? The Seanie Johnston saga was able to be decided beforehand. I don’t fully understand the difference between this and that from a GAA process point of view.
no need to change it.
doesnt seem to be widespread so the system as it stands works perfectly. its is only a problem when people take the absolute piss.
as chewie lewie has stated the lad was warned that there would be problems so what more can you do with the likes of him? the system is for all, players and volunteers. its crazy to suggest you should set up a whole heap of additional systems and admin workload for volunteers within the gaa to cater for the likes of Andrew Shore who just wants to do what he likes.
The reason Seanie Johnsons was highlighted was due to an objection by his club/cavan county board. It is normally the club that the player is leaving that will have grounds to object.