[QUOTE=“The Big Cheese, post: 1089435, member: 1137”]you are talking complete and utter scutter. Transferring to the UK from a Dublin team has the exact same rules and regulations as transferring from a Dublin club to a Wexford club.
Inter county transfers are permissable all year round while transferring within a county is not.
There are no such things as weekend transfers in the UK[/QUOTE]
for fuck sake, would you read what I said?
I know it has the same rules, I am saying change the fucking rules. how can it be that the likes of what happened is permissable, as had the game taken place the day after it would have been ok by all accounts. The chopping and changing that you can transfer mid season when your team is out and join someone else is a ridiculous situation.
That’s fair enough but is a sign of how backward the system is. I still don’t see why a central person or team in Croke Park can’t be responsible for passing or vetoing any transfers though.
[QUOTE=“HBV*, post: 1089440, member: 234”]no need to change it.
doesnt seem to be widespread so the system as it stands works perfectly. its is only a problem when people take the absolute piss.
as chewie lewie has stated the lad was warned that there would be problems so what more can you do with the likes of him? the system is for all, players and volunteers. its crazy to suggest you should set up a whole heap of additional systems and admin workload for volunteers within the gaa to cater for the likes of Andrew Shore who just wants to do what he likes.[/QUOTE]
jesus christ its like talking to a fucking wall. what I am saying is cut out the need for additional admin and workload.
There is no need to change it. As I said 99% of I/C transfers are above board. The onus I on the player(s) and the club to have everything above board and correct, if not they should have to deal with the consequences.
maybe all wexford hurlers should have a hurling passport that gets stamped by the wexford cb every few weeks indicating what club they are attached to that they hand to the referee each time they take to the field to avoid all confusion for themselves. individually they could also open it each morning to see what club they are playing for on any given day and it would only require someone in the wex cb to work an extra few hours every few weeks.
I’m confused. In what way would Shores transfer have been legal the following day?
From what I’ve read he seemed to think he was only going over to play one match? Sure you can’t do that can you ?
if you change it then you are denying the hundreds of players who legally transfer throughout the year the opportunity to play the game
[QUOTE=“Julio Geordio, post: 1089457, member: 332”]I’m confused. In what way would Shores transfer have been legal the following day?
From what I’ve read he seemed to think he was only going over to play one match? Sure you can’t do that can you ?[/QUOTE]
Shore was banned as his transfer hadn’t got the correct clearance. There is a four day period between when the transfer is approved and when the player can play. He did not wait the four days.
[QUOTE=“The Big Cheese, post: 1089462, member: 1137”]if you change it then you are denying the hundreds of players who legally transfer throughout the year the opportunity to play the game
Shore was banned as his transfer hadn’t got the correct clearance. There is a four day period between when the transfer is approved and when the player can play. He did not wait the four days.[/QUOTE]
I’m saying why not have transfer windows. ie January, April, July or something to that effect. That would encompass the vast majority of all players transferring, and would also reduce admin work and stop players who play for their club leaving once their club is out and then going onto play somewhere else. why have a system that is open to abuse, instead of letting teams try get away with things as they stand.
[QUOTE=“The Big Cheese, post: 1089476, member: 1137”]Because there isn’t widespread abuse of it. The vast majority of transfers are valid and those who do attempt to abuse it get caught.
Very few players just up and leave their clubs for the sake of it because they ate out of competitions. The most have valid reasons to transfer[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=“Gman, post: 1089486, member: 112”]so you didnt see all the players in Laois, Armagh, Offaly and other counties who get knocked out in June or July (http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/gaa-set-to-clamp-down-on-player-exodus-to-united-states-29390823.html) move to America for a couple of months and then come back again? Players play the opening of their club championships, then play county, then move abroad for a month or 2, and then come back to their club again if they are still involved. Is that not abuse of the system?
are any of those valid reasons for transfers? are they not doing pretty much exactly what Shore tried to do?[/QUOTE]
The British council is for all intents and purposes treated as an Irish council the same as Ulster, Munster etc.
what happens in the USA or Australia is of no relevance to it
[QUOTE=“The Big Cheese, post: 1089462, member: 1137”]if you change it then you are denying the hundreds of players who legally transfer throughout the year the opportunity to play the game
Shore was banned as his transfer hadn’t got the correct clearance. There is a four day period between when the transfer is approved and when the player can play. He did not wait the four days.[/QUOTE]
Chewy was he attempting to properly transfer to them or get some sort of special dispensation?
[QUOTE=“Gman, post: 1089486, member: 112”]so you didnt see all the players in Laois, Armagh, Offaly and other counties who get knocked out in June or July (http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/gaa-set-to-clamp-down-on-player-exodus-to-united-states-29390823.html) move to America for a couple of months and then come back again? Players play the opening of their club championships, then play county, then move abroad for a month or 2, and then come back to their club again if they are still involved. Is that not abuse of the system?
are any of those valid reasons for transfers? are they not doing pretty much exactly what Shore tried to do?[/QUOTE]
Presumably you read the article you linked to? You know the part where it outlined the GAA were cracking down on this? Intercounty players are no longer allowed to transfer stateside.
[QUOTE=“The Big Cheese, post: 1089499, member: 1137”]The British council is for all intents and purposes treated as an Irish council the same as Ulster, Munster etc.
what happens in the USA or Australia is of no relevance to it[/QUOTE]
that doesnt really answer the question I asked. at all. is what is happening the same as what Shore did? and is it not common enough in Britain anyway where players come over and take part in championships at the latter stages, regardless of if they are intercounty or not? and how can it be accepted that the system worked if you are so hot and bothered over the transfer, yet it would have been allowed go through had the game been on 1 day later.
[QUOTE=“Julio Geordio, post: 1089503, member: 332”]Chewy was he attempting to properly transfer to them or get some sort of special dispensation?
Presumably you read the article you linked to? You know the part where it outlined the GAA were cracking down on this? Intercounty players are no longer allowed to transfer stateside.[/QUOTE]
they most certainly are allowed still. I know that at least 4 Wexford county footballers went to America this summer, one of them went over, played there and came back and captained his club in the county final.
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