Who wasn't bugging GSOC

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http://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2013/sep/17/irish-independent-Ireland

In April this year, she doorstepped Ireland’s police chief, Garda commissioner Martin Callinan, and questioned his wife while seeking to confirm a story that penalty points had been wiped from Callinan’s driving record.
The article states that two executives at O’Doherty’s paper were “appalled” at her making the approach without previously informing her bosses.
Stephen Rae, editor-in-chief of the Dublin-based Independent titles, was also furious at O’Doherty’s action. Rae is a former editor of the Garda Review magazine.
[U]Her story about Callinan was eventually run[/U] in what the Phoenix calls a “sanitised” fashion. Weeks later, she was informed that she was to be made redundant. She refused to go voluntarily and was told she would be made compulsorily redundant (the only Indo journalist to suffer that indignity).
These incidents were the culmination of years of dogged, single-minded [U]investigative journalism[/U] by O’Doherty that brought her into conflict with senior police officers, leading politicians, the judiciary and the prosecuting authorities.
It concerned the mystery surrounding the death of a priest, Father Niall Molloy, who was found dead in the home of a couple - Richard and Therese Flynn - in Clara, Co Offaly, in 1985.
Richard Flynn was charged with manslaughter but his trial and its aftermath was suffused with controversy. The judge, who knew the family, was accused of a conflict of interest. Flynn’s counsel suggested Molloy had died of natural causes. And the jury then returned a not guilty verdict.
However, a later inquest revealed that Molloy’s injuries were consistent with his having suffered a serious blow to the head.
The story rumbled on in the background for years until O’Doherty took it up and patiently exposed a series of inconsistencies in the approach of police and prosecutors. She mounted evidence that pointed to collusion and a cover-up.
Her stories from 2010 onwards helped to put the “Father Molloy murder” on the news agenda, boosting his family’s demand for an independent inquiry. (Examples [U]here[/U][/URL] and [URL=‘http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/family-seek-fresh-probe-in-priests-death-as-new-evidence-uncovered-26692218.html’][U]here[/U][/URL] and [URL=‘http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/dramatic-new-moves-in-fr-molloy-murder-investigation-28812147.html’][U]here[/U][/URL] and [URL=‘http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/murdered-priests-horse-and-paintings-vanished-after-death-28812713.html’][U]here[/U]).
In November 2012, in an article by O’Doherty headlined [U]“Molloy’s murder will rock the state”[/U], she reported with approval a politician’s claim that the case amounted to “the biggest cover-up in the history of the state.” She wrote:
“A two-year investigation by this newspaper into the priest’s killing has exposed a litany of damning evidence and glaring inconsistencies which point to nothing less than a cover-up of staggering proportions, involving several institutions of the State and the Catholic Church.”
O’Doherty’s subsequent enforced departure from the Independent has received no coverage in the rest of the Irish mainstream media.
But she has had backing from the [U]National Union of Journalists[/U]. Its Irish secretary, Seamus Dooley, said: “We believe she has been badly treated and has a case for unfair dismissal.”
Now a concerned group of campaigners on behalf of Molloy’s family along with relatives of other murder victims who have grievances against the police have taken up O’Doherty’s case.

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Williams doing his bit for his Garda sources

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/gsoc-knew-cafe-wifi-was-cause-of-anomaly-30018274.html

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more here on journalist suing for defamation

http://www.broadsheet.ie/2013/09/13/we-do-have-truth-but-we-dont-have-accountability/
[URL=‘http://www.broadsheet.ie/2013/09/13/we-do-have-truth-but-we-dont-have-accountability/’][quote=“Julio Geordio, post: 905119, member: 332”]Williams doing his bit for his Garda sources

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/gsoc-knew-cafe-wifi-was-cause-of-anomaly-30018274.html[/quote][/URL]
how many versions of this story has he now written. If a crime suspect changed their story as often then inferences would be drawn


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[quote=“TheUlteriorMotive, post: 905121, member: 2272”]more here on journalist suing for defamation

http://www.broadsheet.ie/2013/09/13/we-do-have-truth-but-we-dont-have-accountability/

how many versions of this story has he now written. If a crime suspect changed their story as often then inferences would be drawn
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Williams is a wholly unreliable witness. Yesterday he went with verrimus were trying to sell this type of equipment to the gardai the weekend they did the gsoc sweepwhich verrimus quickly disproved saying they were giving a booked lecture to gardai on surveillance techniques.

Besgs the question how the gardai knew theyd be in town that weekend.

Id highly recommend listening to tom clonan on sean orourkes show yesterday, cuts through all the bullshit and attempted spin

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Wouldn’t be that unusual. I’d deal with a few UK technology sellers and generally what they will do is book a block of meetings for when they are over. So if you register your interest in a demo or whatever, they will then call you back and arrange a date to coincide with other visits.

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Williams was bought and paid for a long time ago. A more reprehensible man I’ve never known when it comes to that cunt. His new role of Political commentator at INM is really suiting his limited skill set.

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Somebody should pull together Williams articles since this story broke and set out in detail how he has moved his position/reacted. Wonder if the Phoenix might do it.

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Williams the cunt getting called out for the being the gardai spokesrat by verrimus

http://www.thejournal.ie/verrimus-statement-reporting-1320967-Feb2014/

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It’s only Tuesday and Verimus have destroyed Garda Williams twice already this week :clap:

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Tom clonan has joined in on PK and lashed into williams without even naming him

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PK’s coverage has been excellent.

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The articles I can find from him are below but there may be others.

Headline:

theres-a-long-list-of-suspects-in-this-hitech-crime-world

General Theme:

There is an unfair implication that the Guards are involved.

It could be anyone.

The underworld have the capability and previous history.

Comment:

No logic, reason or motive to the assertion that underworld could have something to do with it, other than to open up other possibilities for what might have happened and move the story away from the Guards.

Quotes:

“one arm of the State has been unfairly implicated in the absence of any evidence presented to the public so far.” He later has no issue implicating the underworld with no evidence or logical reason.

“The subtext to GSOC’s decision not to alert Justice Minister Alan Shatter about the clandestine attack, and its initial silence since the story first appeared, clearly infers that they don’t trust the man.
And that is effectively an insult to Shatter, who even his most vocal critics agree, is a man of unflinching integrity.” :smiley:

“In 1996, Patrick Dutchy Holland, the man who assassinatedVeronica Guerin, hatched an equally sophisticated plot to eavesdrop on gardai investigating the murder.” WTF has it got to do with anything?

“The availability of such hi-tech bugging equipment on the international underworld markets broadens the list of possible suspects for this operation.” :smiley:

Link:

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/paul-williams-theres-a-long-list-of-suspects-in-this-hitech-crime-world-29997115.html

Headline:

garda-watchdog-gets-legal-advice-in-bid-to-find-source-of-leak

General Theme:

GSOC looking for the leak. GSOC is in a bit of a mess.

Sweep initiated due to Kieran Boylan case. Guards said they had no involvement, GSOC agree no case to answer.

Comment:

Clear attempt to make GSOC look like a poorly run operation (that’s not to say it isn’t).

Quotes:

Meanwhile, the Irish Independent has learned that the Ombudsman began to suspect it was being bugged by the gardai due to tensions over the controversial case of a drug dealer turned informant, senior officers believe.

GSOC is being accused of ordering the sweep based on “groundless suspicions” of surveillance activity by gardai. Very leading language

The commissioner said yesterday he wanted to state, unequivocally, that no member of his force was involved in any surveillance of the Ombudsman Commission’s building.

The fall-out from the GSOC bugging row has caused serious anger among staff at the watchdog body who are now under suspicion for leaking the information. A source close to the organisation :rolleyes: told the Irish Independent last night that the revelations have led to “a very tense atmosphere”.

“There is a very tense atmosphere in the offices and people are demanding answers, we are as confused as the public are by all of this,” the insider said.

Link:

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/garda-watchdog-gets-legal-advice-in-bid-to-find-source-of-leak-30011738.html

Headline:

Maybe no one ‘done it’ in this spy mystery rolled into a whodunit – 15/02/2014

General Theme:

Nothing happened at all. Link to Boylan affair irrelevant as all info GSOC would have gotten from Guards.

He then outlines other possible people who could have done it, someone internally within the GSOC, perhaps due to an internal rift. Criminals or Terrorists, rather hilariously he introduces them as possibilities before quickly ruling them out, even though he himself said they may be responsible a few days earlier. He also introduces the possibility of the CIA or MI5 being involved. Before ultimately saying that no bugging ever took place.

Comment:

This one is actually worth a read for its hilarity. He introduces numerous possibilities only to rubbish them as ridiculous. The only thing you could take from it was he was trying to make the accusations seem ridiculous in themselves by his introduction of the outside possibilities.

He implied that there would be no benefit whatsoever to the Guards taping the ombudsman as they had supplied them with all the information in the first place, a frankly ridiculous assertion.

Quotes:

“The fumbling :rolleyes: way a member of the GardaOmbudsman Commission leaked the story in the first place – and the confusing explanations given since then – also raised the issue of whether it is really a case of “who might have dunnit” or a “no one dunnit at all”.

“With the exception of one case, the Boylan affair, the bulk of GSOC’s workload involves allegations of assault and abuse of authority against younger gardai.

And those at the centre of the Boylan case already knew almost everything that GSOC knew, because most of the information had been provided by the gardai.” :smiley:

“Another scenario is that someone in GSOC was responsible for the plot and had been bugging their colleagues as a result perhaps of an internal rift.” No attempt to explain how they would have been capable of such a ruse

“The Ombudsman chairman Simon O’Brien has already told a Dail committee that he has ordered an internal investigation to find out who on his staff leaked the report to a Sunday newspaper.”

“Other potential suspects could come from organised crime or Republican terrorists."
But security experts wonder what value GSOC’s information would be to criminals or subversives.” So they aren’t potential suspects then? :rolleyes:

“For the most conspiratorial of minds the suspect list could include the NSA[/URL], [URL=‘http://searchtopics.independent.ie/topic/MI5’]MI5[/URL] or [URL=‘http://searchtopics.independent.ie/topic/Central_Intelligence_Agency’]CIA, world leaders in the dark arts of espionage. :eek:
But it stretches the imagination as to what interest the international spooks would have obtaining intelligence concerning a garda who used his baton once too often.”
What is the point of even mentioning it then?

And that leaves one obvious alternative scenario which has been gaining momentum: no bugging ever took place. Ah so by ruling out all the other retarded scenarios you introduced this must be the answer.

Link:

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/maybe-no-one-done-it-in-this-spy-mystery-rolled-into-a-whodunnit-30011737.html

Headline:

a-machiavellian-plot-to-oust-watchdogs-chief

General Theme:

All a big plot to get the ombudsman sacked by members of the GSOC.

Luckily Shatter has seen through it.

Quotes:

“THE bugging controversy took a new twist with claims it has been stoked as part of a bitter internal campaign designed to oust the chairman Simon O’Brien.”

"One of the sources :mad:told the Irish Independent: “It may seem bizarre but there is a much more subtle agenda being pursued here. It is all about a bitter internal campaign to get rid of the chairman. This is a classic Machiavellian plot.”

“When the story initially broke, it looked like the plan had worked well when the minister pointedly failed to express his support for Mr O’Brien and one of the garda unions calling on him to consider his position.”

“However, Mr Shatter subsequently backed Mr O’Brien and his colleagues.”

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/paul-williams- a-machiavellian-plot-to-oust-watchdogs-chief -30015431.html

Headline:

GSOC knew cafe wi-fi was cause of ‘anomaly’

General Theme:

Security breaches were all bollox, easily explained by a café’s wifi and an employee of the company doing the sweep was the UK Phone. GSOC are incompetent.

Comment:

Make a number of accusations in the article which the security company rubbish at the end, a bizarre article really. I assume the security companies comments came after the fact, in which case the article should have been completely withdrawn.

Quotes:

“The Garda Siochana Ombudsman Commission has known for months that a wi-fi network in a coffee shop was the innocent explanation for one of the “anomalies””

“However, GSOC omitted to tell either Justice Minister Alan Shatter or the Dail Oversight Committee last week that they had effectively solved one of the major threats identified in the security audit.”

“It has also emerged that the detection of a UK 3G mobile network during a sweep came from the mobile phones being used by the Verrimus security experts themselves.”

“The revelation that GSOC knew there was nothing sinister about the wi-fi issue but failed to use two opportunities last week to clear up the matter will cause concern.”

“A mobile phone cannot create a 3G base station, so it is impossible that Verrimus operator’s phones were the source of the fake Mobile Country Code (MCC) and fake Mobile Network Code (MNC) that was detected.
With regard to the WiFi device, any WiFi device capable of audio, video or data gathering that sits on a SECURE internal Wireless Local Area (WLAN) should not be attached and communicate with any device outside of its own secure network, as this can enable the source information (audio, video or data) to be transmitted outside of that secure network to the person or organisation that forced the device to function outside of its secure network.
Verrimus cannot comment specifically on details of the task for GSOC or the findings, however we will correct technical inaccuracies in reporting.
Should technical advice on functions and capabilities of threat be required by anyone reporting or interested in technical surveillance threat, Verrimus will happily provide thorough briefings to mitigate inaccurate reporting in this, or any other matter.”

Link:

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/gsoc-knew-cafe-wifi-was-cause-of-anomaly-30018274.html

Headline:

Paul Williams: All sides want to draw a line under this sorry mess

General Theme:

Lets just move on.

Comment:

Bizarre dig at FF & SF in the article,.

“GSOC have destroyed a tense working relationship” presumably it would be better if the Ombudsman and the crowd it was keeping an eye on were best buddies.

Quotes:

The leak has given SF and FF, two parties with plenty of history when it comes to phone tapping and spying, a golden opportunity to batter the minister and the Government over a supposed scandal.
Bizarre

Also seriously damaged is GSOC’s reputation which has, through its poor handling of its media leaks, effectively destroyed what was left of an already tense working relationship with the gardai it was set up to keep an eye on.
:rolleyes:

It is increasingly clear that the watchdog jumped the gun. The fact that by Sunday the Ombudsman’s office was joining with the minister and the gardai in trying to draw a line under the whole sad mess illustrates that they realise that they have bitten off more than they can chew.

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/paul-williams-all-sides-want-to-draw-a-line-under-this-sorry-mess-30018107.html

The whole thing is bizarre and I don’t know what the truth is, but Williams is clearly protecting his buddies in the Guards here.
Williams seems very concerned that GSOC has a leak but has no problem with the “sources” he quotes throughout.
He uses some sensationalist language in his reporting that is shameful for a supposed broadsheet to allow pass.
No attempt at investigating the possibility of Garda involvement at any stage in any of the articles.

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Gda williams will be on newstalk at lunchtime. Hopefully they fillet him

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[quote=“Julio Geordio, post: 905235, member: 332”]The articles I can find from him are below but there may be others.

Headline:

theres-a-long-list-of-suspects-in-this-hitech-crime-world

General Theme:

There is an unfair implication that the Guards are involved.

It could be anyone.

The underworld have the capability and previous history.

Comment:

No logic, reason or motive to the assertion that underworld could have something to do with it, other than to open up other possibilities for what might have happened and move the story away from the Guards.

Quotes:

“one arm of the State has been unfairly implicated in the absence of any evidence presented to the public so far.” He later has no issue implicating the underworld with no evidence or logical reason.

“The subtext to GSOC’s decision not to alert Justice Minister Alan Shatter about the clandestine attack, and its initial silence since the story first appeared, clearly infers that they don’t trust the man.
And that is effectively an insult to Shatter, who even his most vocal critics agree, is a man of unflinching integrity.” :smiley:

“In 1996, Patrick Dutchy Holland, the man who assassinatedVeronica Guerin, hatched an equally sophisticated plot to eavesdrop on gardai investigating the murder.” WTF has it got to do with anything?

“The availability of such hi-tech bugging equipment on the international underworld markets broadens the list of possible suspects for this operation.” :smiley:

Link:

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/paul-williams-theres-a-long-list-of-suspects-in-this-hitech-crime-world-29997115.html

Headline:

garda-watchdog-gets-legal-advice-in-bid-to-find-source-of-leak

General Theme:

GSOC looking for the leak. GSOC is in a bit of a mess.

Sweep initiated due to Kieran Boylan case. Guards said they had no involvement, GSOC agree no case to answer.

Comment:

Clear attempt to make GSOC look like a poorly run operation (that’s not to say it isn’t).

Quotes:

Meanwhile, the Irish Independent has learned that the Ombudsman began to suspect it was being bugged by the gardai due to tensions over the controversial case of a drug dealer turned informant, senior officers believe.

GSOC is being accused of ordering the sweep based on “groundless suspicions” of surveillance activity by gardai. Very leading language

The commissioner said yesterday he wanted to state, unequivocally, that no member of his force was involved in any surveillance of the Ombudsman Commission’s building.

The fall-out from the GSOC bugging row has caused serious anger among staff at the watchdog body who are now under suspicion for leaking the information. A source close to the organisation :rolleyes: told the Irish Independent last night that the revelations have led to “a very tense atmosphere”.

“There is a very tense atmosphere in the offices and people are demanding answers, we are as confused as the public are by all of this,” the insider said.

Link:

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/garda-watchdog-gets-legal-advice-in-bid-to-find-source-of-leak-30011738.html

Headline:

Maybe no one ‘done it’ in this spy mystery rolled into a whodunit – 15/02/2014

General Theme:

Nothing happened at all. Link to Boylan affair irrelevant as all info GSOC would have gotten from Guards.

He then outlines other possible people who could have done it, someone internally within the GSOC, perhaps due to an internal rift. Criminals or Terrorists, rather hilariously he introduces them as possibilities before quickly ruling them out, even though he himself said they may be responsible a few days earlier. He also introduces the possibility of the CIA or MI5 being involved. Before ultimately saying that no bugging ever took place.

Comment:

This one is actually worth a read for its hilarity. He introduces numerous possibilities only to rubbish them as ridiculous. The only thing you could take from it was he was trying to make the accusations seem ridiculous in themselves by his introduction of the outside possibilities.

He implied that there would be no benefit whatsoever to the Guards taping the ombudsman as they had supplied them with all the information in the first place, a frankly ridiculous assertion.

Quotes:

“The fumbling :rolleyes: way a member of the GardaOmbudsman Commission leaked the story in the first place – and the confusing explanations given since then – also raised the issue of whether it is really a case of “who might have dunnit” or a “no one dunnit at all”.

“With the exception of one case, the Boylan affair, the bulk of GSOC’s workload involves allegations of assault and abuse of authority against younger gardai.

And those at the centre of the Boylan case already knew almost everything that GSOC knew, because most of the information had been provided by the gardai.” :smiley:

“Another scenario is that someone in GSOC was responsible for the plot and had been bugging their colleagues as a result perhaps of an internal rift.” No attempt to explain how they would have been capable of such a ruse

“The Ombudsman chairman Simon O’Brien has already told a Dail committee that he has ordered an internal investigation to find out who on his staff leaked the report to a Sunday newspaper.”

“Other potential suspects could come from organised crime or Republican terrorists."
But security experts wonder what value GSOC’s information would be to criminals or subversives.” So they aren’t potential suspects then? :rolleyes:

“For the most conspiratorial of minds the suspect list could include the NSA[/URL], [URL=‘http://searchtopics.independent.ie/topic/MI5’]MI5[/URL] or [URL=‘http://searchtopics.independent.ie/topic/Central_Intelligence_Agency’]CIA, world leaders in the dark arts of espionage. :eek:
But it stretches the imagination as to what interest the international spooks would have obtaining intelligence concerning a garda who used his baton once too often.”
What is the point of even mentioning it then?

And that leaves one obvious alternative scenario which has been gaining momentum: no bugging ever took place. Ah so by ruling out all the other retarded scenarios you introduced this must be the answer.

Link:

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/maybe-no-one-done-it-in-this-spy-mystery-rolled-into-a-whodunnit-30011737.html

Headline:

a-machiavellian-plot-to-oust-watchdogs-chief

General Theme:

All a big plot to get the ombudsman sacked by members of the GSOC.

Luckily Shatter has seen through it.

Quotes:

“THE bugging controversy took a new twist with claims it has been stoked as part of a bitter internal campaign designed to oust the chairman Simon O’Brien.”

"One of the sources :mad:told the Irish Independent: “It may seem bizarre but there is a much more subtle agenda being pursued here. It is all about a bitter internal campaign to get rid of the chairman. This is a classic Machiavellian plot.”

“When the story initially broke, it looked like the plan had worked well when the minister pointedly failed to express his support for Mr O’Brien and one of the garda unions calling on him to consider his position.”

“However, Mr Shatter subsequently backed Mr O’Brien and his colleagues.”

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/paul-williams- a-machiavellian-plot-to-oust-watchdogs-chief -30015431.html

Headline:

GSOC knew cafe wi-fi was cause of ‘anomaly’

General Theme:

Security breaches were all bollox, easily explained by a café’s wifi and an employee of the company doing the sweep was the UK Phone. GSOC are incompetent.

Comment:

Make a number of accusations in the article which the security company rubbish at the end, a bizarre article really. I assume the security companies comments came after the fact, in which case the article should have been completely withdrawn.

Quotes:

“The Garda Siochana Ombudsman Commission has known for months that a wi-fi network in a coffee shop was the innocent explanation for one of the “anomalies””

“However, GSOC omitted to tell either Justice Minister Alan Shatter or the Dail Oversight Committee last week that they had effectively solved one of the major threats identified in the security audit.”

“It has also emerged that the detection of a UK 3G mobile network during a sweep came from the mobile phones being used by the Verrimus security experts themselves.”

“The revelation that GSOC knew there was nothing sinister about the wi-fi issue but failed to use two opportunities last week to clear up the matter will cause concern.”

“A mobile phone cannot create a 3G base station, so it is impossible that Verrimus operator’s phones were the source of the fake Mobile Country Code (MCC) and fake Mobile Network Code (MNC) that was detected.
With regard to the WiFi device, any WiFi device capable of audio, video or data gathering that sits on a SECURE internal Wireless Local Area (WLAN) should not be attached and communicate with any device outside of its own secure network, as this can enable the source information (audio, video or data) to be transmitted outside of that secure network to the person or organisation that forced the device to function outside of its secure network.
Verrimus cannot comment specifically on details of the task for GSOC or the findings, however we will correct technical inaccuracies in reporting.
Should technical advice on functions and capabilities of threat be required by anyone reporting or interested in technical surveillance threat, Verrimus will happily provide thorough briefings to mitigate inaccurate reporting in this, or any other matter.”

Link:

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/gsoc-knew-cafe-wifi-was-cause-of-anomaly-30018274.html

Headline:

Paul Williams: All sides want to draw a line under this sorry mess

General Theme:

Lets just move on.

Comment:

Bizarre dig at FF & SF in the article,.

“GSOC have destroyed a tense working relationship” presumably it would be better if the Ombudsman and the crowd it was keeping an eye on were best buddies.

Quotes:

The leak has given SF and FF, two parties with plenty of history when it comes to phone tapping and spying, a golden opportunity to batter the minister and the Government over a supposed scandal.
Bizarre

Also seriously damaged is GSOC’s reputation which has, through its poor handling of its media leaks, effectively destroyed what was left of an already tense working relationship with the gardai it was set up to keep an eye on.
:rolleyes:

It is increasingly clear that the watchdog jumped the gun. The fact that by Sunday the Ombudsman’s office was joining with the minister and the gardai in trying to draw a line under the whole sad mess illustrates that they realise that they have bitten off more than they can chew.

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/paul-williams-all-sides-want-to-draw-a-line-under-this-sorry-mess-30018107.html

The whole thing is bizarre and I don’t know what the truth is, but Williams is clearly protecting his buddies in the Guards here.
Williams seems very concerned that GSOC has a leak but has no problem with the “sources” he quotes throughout.
He uses some sensationalist language in his reporting that is shameful for a supposed broadsheet to allow pass.
No attempt at investigating the possibility of Garda involvement at any stage in any of the articles.[/quote]

Great work

You should put that together and submit it to one of the online media outlets - broadsheet.ie or similar
maybe the phoenix also

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Judicial inquiry will be announced shortly. Wonder if he govt will pick one of their recent appointees to chair

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Williams tied up in knots again

http://www.broadsheet.ie/2014/02/18/just-williams/

So, in the confusion, it appears that perhaps they detected the existence of their own English mobile phones while that sweep was going on

:rolleyes:

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Hang your heads in shame TFK- I voted for Williams ad nauseum in COTY.

There is no other candidate in any year since the Guerin murder and when he first started looking under his car
 [When there was a camera on him of course].

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“The subtext to GSOC’s decision not to alert Justice Minister Alan Shatter about the clandestine attack, and its initial silence since the story first appeared, clearly infers that they don’t trust the man.

Some shocking “journalism” from Williamsn in that piece, but the confusion of infers with implies is perhaps the most troubling aspect of all.

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Junior Cert English

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Didn’t Trevor Sergeant/Sargent, the former Green Party TD, resign over a fairly minor matter a few years back? Before that I think Bobby Molloy stepped down too over something trivial but am open to correction?

That cunt John O’Donoghue eventually quit after the expenses scandal involving him and his wife, only after he had doggedly fought and defended his lavish expenditure of tax payers money.

The brass neck of the likes of Richie Boucher is par for the course these days. Hold your ground and in most circumstances you can’t be forced out.