GUBU from williams
[quote=âartfoley, post: 905817, member: 179â]http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/paul-williams-pc-brigade-dragged-me-through-mud-imagine-if-id-been-wrong-30021715.html
GUBU from williams[/quote]
He is rattled. Badly rattled.
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The Irish Independent has been accused of bias in the coverage of the GSOC bugging controversy despite the fact that the newspaper has covered every aspect of the story in report, analysis and comment.
The ongoing confusion and denials reflect the complexity and divergence of opinion that surrounds the issue.
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[quote=âartfoley, post: 905817, member: 179â]http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/paul-williams-pc-brigade-dragged-me-through-mud-imagine-if-id-been-wrong-30021715.html
GUBU from williams[/quote]
Williams yesterday: time to draw a line under this sorry mess
Williams today: The Irish public, in order to have confidence in the watchdog, must know the full unfettered truth whether or not its offices had been monitored.
How long has minister Shatter being in receipt of the evidence from RITS? Surely to god it was in his interests to go public with it?
Just to be clear I donât believe a word of it.
oliver connolly just fired as confidential recipient. first to fall in all this, hopefully not the last
So a man who has claimed that there was absolutely no evidence to support the notion that GSOC was bugged is now responsible for setting up the enquiry into it??
Attacking Sinn Feinâs credibility on bugging seems to be the tactic now from this government. Pat Rabbitte resorting to this now on the radio.
Martin OâNeill has said he would take over at the helm of verrimus should a position become available as they are british and he loves them. Sinister development.
Its another Oirish farce. The gas thing is theyâll get away with it.
The big question that will remain unanswered of course is- Did Ollie get his 1000 euro back?
Heâs the lad who whistleblowers are supposed to contact if they donât want to go to their bosses.
He told one Garda Whistleblower âIâll tell you something, Maurice, and this is just personal advice to you, if Shatter thinks youâre screwing him, youâre finished.â
The confidential recipient is tasked with receiving confidential reports of corruption or malpractice within An Garda SĂochĂĄna from garda members or civilian employees.
http://soundmigration.wordpress.com/2014/02/19/gsoc-williams-callinan-and-shatter-hardly-credible/
Good synopsis of uber cunt Williams here.
[quote=âJulio Geordio, post: 905235, member: 332â]The articles I can find from him are below but there may be others.
Headline:
theres-a-long-list-of-suspects-in-this-hitech-crime-world
General Theme:
There is an unfair implication that the Guards are involved.
It could be anyone.
The underworld have the capability and previous history.
Comment:
No logic, reason or motive to the assertion that underworld could have something to do with it, other than to open up other possibilities for what might have happened and move the story away from the Guards.
Quotes:
âone arm of the State has been unfairly implicated in the absence of any evidence presented to the public so far.â He later has no issue implicating the underworld with no evidence or logical reason.
âThe subtext to GSOCâs decision not to alert Justice Minister Alan Shatter about the clandestine attack, and its initial silence since the story first appeared, clearly infers that they donât trust the man.
And that is effectively an insult to Shatter, who even his most vocal critics agree, is a man of unflinching integrity.â
âIn 1996, Patrick Dutchy Holland, the man who assassinatedVeronica Guerin, hatched an equally sophisticated plot to eavesdrop on gardai investigating the murder.â WTF has it got to do with anything?
âThe availability of such hi-tech bugging equipment on the international underworld markets broadens the list of possible suspects for this operation.â
Link:
Headline:
garda-watchdog-gets-legal-advice-in-bid-to-find-source-of-leak
General Theme:
GSOC looking for the leak. GSOC is in a bit of a mess.
Sweep initiated due to Kieran Boylan case. Guards said they had no involvement, GSOC agree no case to answer.
Comment:
Clear attempt to make GSOC look like a poorly run operation (thatâs not to say it isnât).
Quotes:
Meanwhile, the Irish Independent has learned that the Ombudsman began to suspect it was being bugged by the gardai due to tensions over the controversial case of a drug dealer turned informant, senior officers believe.
GSOC is being accused of ordering the sweep based on âgroundless suspicionsâ of surveillance activity by gardai. Very leading language
The commissioner said yesterday he wanted to state, unequivocally, that no member of his force was involved in any surveillance of the Ombudsman Commissionâs building.
The fall-out from the GSOC bugging row has caused serious anger among staff at the watchdog body who are now under suspicion for leaking the information. A source close to the organisation :rolleyes: told the Irish Independent last night that the revelations have led to âa very tense atmosphereâ.
âThere is a very tense atmosphere in the offices and people are demanding answers, we are as confused as the public are by all of this,â the insider said.
Link:
Headline:
Maybe no one âdone itâ in this spy mystery rolled into a whodunit â 15/02/2014
General Theme:
Nothing happened at all. Link to Boylan affair irrelevant as all info GSOC would have gotten from Guards.
He then outlines other possible people who could have done it, someone internally within the GSOC, perhaps due to an internal rift. Criminals or Terrorists, rather hilariously he introduces them as possibilities before quickly ruling them out, even though he himself said they may be responsible a few days earlier. He also introduces the possibility of the CIA or MI5 being involved. Before ultimately saying that no bugging ever took place.
Comment:
This one is actually worth a read for its hilarity. He introduces numerous possibilities only to rubbish them as ridiculous. The only thing you could take from it was he was trying to make the accusations seem ridiculous in themselves by his introduction of the outside possibilities.
He implied that there would be no benefit whatsoever to the Guards taping the ombudsman as they had supplied them with all the information in the first place, a frankly ridiculous assertion.
Quotes:
âThe fumbling :rolleyes: way a member of the GardaOmbudsman Commission leaked the story in the first place â and the confusing explanations given since then â also raised the issue of whether it is really a case of âwho might have dunnitâ or a âno one dunnit at allâ.
âWith the exception of one case, the Boylan affair, the bulk of GSOCâs workload involves allegations of assault and abuse of authority against younger gardai.
And those at the centre of the Boylan case already knew almost everything that GSOC knew, because most of the information had been provided by the gardai.â
âAnother scenario is that someone in GSOC was responsible for the plot and had been bugging their colleagues as a result perhaps of an internal rift.â No attempt to explain how they would have been capable of such a ruse
âThe Ombudsman chairman Simon OâBrien has already told a Dail committee that he has ordered an internal investigation to find out who on his staff leaked the report to a Sunday newspaper.â
âOther potential suspects could come from organised crime or Republican terrorists."
But security experts wonder what value GSOCâs information would be to criminals or subversives.â So they arenât potential suspects then? :rolleyes:
âFor the most conspiratorial of minds the suspect list could include the NSA[/URL], [URL=âhttp://searchtopics.independent.ie/topic/MI5â]MI5[/URL] or [URL=âhttp://searchtopics.independent.ie/topic/Central_Intelligence_Agencyâ]CIA, world leaders in the dark arts of espionage. 
But it stretches the imagination as to what interest the international spooks would have obtaining intelligence concerning a garda who used his baton once too often.â
What is the point of even mentioning it then?
And that leaves one obvious alternative scenario which has been gaining momentum: no bugging ever took place. Ah so by ruling out all the other retarded scenarios you introduced this must be the answer.
Link:
Headline:
a-machiavellian-plot-to-oust-watchdogs-chief
General Theme:
All a big plot to get the ombudsman sacked by members of the GSOC.
Luckily Shatter has seen through it.
Quotes:
âTHE bugging controversy took a new twist with claims it has been stoked as part of a bitter internal campaign designed to oust the chairman Simon OâBrien.â
"One of the sources :mad:told the Irish Independent: âIt may seem bizarre but there is a much more subtle agenda being pursued here. It is all about a bitter internal campaign to get rid of the chairman. This is a classic Machiavellian plot.â
âWhen the story initially broke, it looked like the plan had worked well when the minister pointedly failed to express his support for Mr OâBrien and one of the garda unions calling on him to consider his position.â
âHowever, Mr Shatter subsequently backed Mr OâBrien and his colleagues.â
Headline:
GSOC knew cafe wi-fi was cause of âanomalyâ
General Theme:
Security breaches were all bollox, easily explained by a cafĂŠâs wifi and an employee of the company doing the sweep was the UK Phone. GSOC are incompetent.
Comment:
Make a number of accusations in the article which the security company rubbish at the end, a bizarre article really. I assume the security companies comments came after the fact, in which case the article should have been completely withdrawn.
Quotes:
âThe Garda Siochana Ombudsman Commission has known for months that a wi-fi network in a coffee shop was the innocent explanation for one of the âanomaliesââ
âHowever, GSOC omitted to tell either Justice Minister Alan Shatter or the Dail Oversight Committee last week that they had effectively solved one of the major threats identified in the security audit.â
âIt has also emerged that the detection of a UK 3G mobile network during a sweep came from the mobile phones being used by the Verrimus security experts themselves.â
âThe revelation that GSOC knew there was nothing sinister about the wi-fi issue but failed to use two opportunities last week to clear up the matter will cause concern.â
âA mobile phone cannot create a 3G base station, so it is impossible that Verrimus operatorâs phones were the source of the fake Mobile Country Code (MCC) and fake Mobile Network Code (MNC) that was detected.
With regard to the WiFi device, any WiFi device capable of audio, video or data gathering that sits on a SECURE internal Wireless Local Area (WLAN) should not be attached and communicate with any device outside of its own secure network, as this can enable the source information (audio, video or data) to be transmitted outside of that secure network to the person or organisation that forced the device to function outside of its secure network.
Verrimus cannot comment specifically on details of the task for GSOC or the findings, however we will correct technical inaccuracies in reporting.
Should technical advice on functions and capabilities of threat be required by anyone reporting or interested in technical surveillance threat, Verrimus will happily provide thorough briefings to mitigate inaccurate reporting in this, or any other matter.â
Link:
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/gsoc-knew-cafe-wifi-was-cause-of-anomaly-30018274.html
Headline:
Paul Williams: All sides want to draw a line under this sorry mess
General Theme:
Lets just move on.
Comment:
Bizarre dig at FF & SF in the article,.
âGSOC have destroyed a tense working relationshipâ presumably it would be better if the Ombudsman and the crowd it was keeping an eye on were best buddies.
Quotes:
The leak has given SF and FF, two parties with plenty of history when it comes to phone tapping and spying, a golden opportunity to batter the minister and the Government over a supposed scandal.
Bizarre
Also seriously damaged is GSOCâs reputation which has, through its poor handling of its media leaks, effectively destroyed what was left of an already tense working relationship with the gardai it was set up to keep an eye on.
:rolleyes:
It is increasingly clear that the watchdog jumped the gun. The fact that by Sunday the Ombudsmanâs office was joining with the minister and the gardai in trying to draw a line under the whole sad mess illustrates that they realise that they have bitten off more than they can chew.
The whole thing is bizarre and I donât know what the truth is, but Williams is clearly protecting his buddies in the Guards here.
Williams seems very concerned that GSOC has a leak but has no problem with the âsourcesâ he quotes throughout.
He uses some sensationalist language in his reporting that is shameful for a supposed broadsheet to allow pass.
No attempt at investigating the possibility of Garda involvement at any stage in any of the articles.[/quote]
Just to keep track.
Headline:
pc-brigade-dragged-me-through-mud-imagine-if-id-been-wrong
General Theme:
What the fuck is everyones problem.
Canât believe anyone had the audacity to question me.
Need to appoint a judge to review the case
I reiterate (but slightly water down my claims yesterday).
Everything I claimed was rubbished yesterday by experts. But I stand over it, citing âsourcesâ.
Comment:
Absolutely no acknowledgement that he was completely wrong in his assertions. He even makes a few of them again in the article.
Quotes:
This one nearly needs to be taken line by line.
[SIZE=4]It started with an exclusive (that was later rubbished as nonsense) on the front page of this newspaper on the GSOC affair, by mid-morning I was being attacked on social media by journalists barely out of college (this is somehow relevant) â essentially for not following the accepted PC agenda (not sure you know what PC means) â and by late evening my story was being confirmed in the Dail. (no it wasnât)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=4]âIt was astonishing to watch as this marauding group swooped to defend a UK security company â some of whose employees are former agents of the dreaded crown â that was used by GSOCâ. He is refering to Sinn Fein here in what can only be described as a retarded side swipe. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=4]âImagine the bile if my story had been wrong!â It was
âThen again, objectivity is not something that is guaranteed by your licence fee.â Itâs certainly not guaranteed by your paper
"Some have accused those who are sceptical of all the GSOC claims of being pro Alan Shatter and the Gardai. Thatâs the kind of abuse thatâs thrown around like confetti if you donât follow the accepted wisdom of the media mob."Youâd have to laugh at the hype merchant talking about the media mob
âMy job in life has always been to put facts on paper and let the public make up their own mind. Be that the Anglo Tapes or in a previous career exposing underworld criminals.â Donât forget making up catchy nicknames for criminals.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=4]âOne way or another, I hope the appointment of a retired High Court judge to investigate every aspect of the GSOC bugging controversy may finally lay bare the full story behind this extraordinary saga.â
"Since the story first broke 11 days ago, the disturbing allegations that the Ombudsman Commissionâs offices may have been under secret electronic surveillance has been a source of intense public concern but shrouded in confusion."Largely generated by you
One of the three anomalies identified in the security audit has been shown to have an innocent explanation :rolleyes: when it was traced to the free wi fi available in a coffee shop on the first floor of the GSOC building. There are still questions as to why it was connecting to this wifi. The fact that a private network is connecting to a public one is surely a matter of concern, whether accidental or not.
And the existence of a UK 3G base station outside the offices would not have made sense if, as the Ombudsman Commission has already confirmed, no one on its staff uses UK mobile phones.Sources close to GSOC claim that it attached to the phones used by the security specialists carrying out the sweep â who were carrying UK mobiles. So the fact that they have told you this was impossible is irrelevant? His eaxact words on Monday were âIt has also emerged that the detection of a UK 3G mobile network during a sweep came from the mobile phones being used by the Verrimus security experts themselves.â [/SIZE]
[SIZE=4]He has now changed it to they were carrying mobiles, yet still doesnât acknowledge that this has nothing to do with the anomaly. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=4]There has been a multiplicity of agendas at play in this saga and it has been difficult to get to the full truth as one has to navigate around these. So difficult that you made no effort.
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Is Paul Williams on twitter?
williams has been snared going back into stories and making alterations to try and bolster his whinge piece today
http://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/1ybxph/the_irish_independent_rewriting_articles/
original
changed version
@Julio Geordio, itâs time for your own blog