Why do teachers get pay rises

The guards are the dregs of society generally and are paid about right. Nurses are underpaid and teachers are overpaid so I would knock 3k off the teachers starting salary and give it to the nurses. Job done.

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No. I have taken one of my 25 annual leave days today.

We launched a new product last night for the company I work for.

Would it be fair in your eyes to have the teachers working for the summer months in full time roles where they are helping educating disadvantaged communities and special needs kids?

Or do you feel they are entitled to 3 months holidays?

What a silly question in light of the fact that you’ve just learned they aren’t paid for those three months.

Don’t be hiding in the semantics, mate.

If you want to take that course then you are saying they have a starting salary of €40k.

Can you justify that in comparison to other public sector workers?

Facts are not semantics.

No they do not have a starting salary of 40k.

Well you’re saying they get a salary of 30k for 9 months work. if you want to pro rata that out with their public sector counterparts who work 12 months then it is 40k in relative terms.

Unless of course you want to judge teachers through a different lens.

Nurses also get various allowances for nights, weekends, additional qualifications etc.

Still massively underpaid mind you

You’re not making any sense. On the one hand, you want them to work for three months in the summer for which they are not paid. And on the other you want to judge judge their salaries as if they worked for three months of the summer and got paid for them.

Guards coin it in by doing “overtime”, a teacher will do overtime correcting homework or doing after school football/hurling/soccer training but for no extra pay. Unlike the guards. I would assume nurses get overtime too.

This is actually outrageous. After 25 years, a teacher will be on €60k. So a 47 year old teacher could be living down the country with a very low cost of living and be on €60k which is probably equivalent to €80k in Dublin with 4 months holiday per year and looking forward to retirement in a few years on a massive pension. It is a difficult job in many instances no doubt but these cunts don’t know they were born. Bertie Ahern should be publicly hanged.

http://www.asti.ie/pay-and-conditions/pay/salary-scales/salary-scale-for-teachers-appointed-after-february-1-2012/

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If you’re 47 years old you’d want to be on around 60K, fuck sake.

What the fuck are you on about, you’re the one who claimed they don’t get paid in the summer. I think you’ll find that money magically appears in their accounts over June, July and August. Who puts it there?

nobody working for the state and who lives outside Dublin should be on more than 45k a year

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Of course you would. But with 4 months off per year and a massive pension to look forward to? A pension paid for by your schmuck of a neighbour who works 11 months of the year and will retire with fuck all of a pension unless he contributes 20% of his salary. And you’re out on strike again? Go way to fuck.

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Can you read? They don’t get paid for the summer.

Your neighbour should have become a teacher if he feels that strongly about it.

Correcting an 8 year old’s homework wouldn’t take much effort.

It can also be done when in their working hours which I imagine most teachers do. Assign a task to the kids in class and then sit at their desk correcting the homework etc.

Training kids after school is a voluntary task which they can choose to do or not do.

Overtime is overtime.

What should they get in Dublin?

Why do they get paid during the summer then?