She was drunk? She didn’t have good ice skates? You’ll have to give me more to work with.
Ok.
Why is it in their Contracts?
Here comes the aeroplane, neeeeeyaaaaooom!
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Because that’s the agreement the government struck with the unions.
Why did they do that?
Because you touch yourself at night.
Why would anyone do a job that has zero progression if there wasn’t pay rises?
I am serious. It is a simple question I have asked.
They do not have increased output, as the number of students remains the same.
Their responsibility or accountability is not greater.
The quality of their work is not improved, because that is to say that a student in a 45 year-old’s class is better off than one in a 25 year old’s.
Everyone wouldn’t be on starting wages, because in some (if not most professions), the longer you stay in the job, the more responsibility you have and your output is greater, of a better quality, or both.
One last try.
I am a Leading Hand for a large construction contractor. I get paid €XX.XX per hour and I’ve been doing it 6 years. Another guy has been doing the same job for 3 months and he gets the exact same as me. We have the same scope and remit, same obligation, same hours, same responsibility. If anything, I probably find the job easier, because I’ve been doing it for years.
Is this not fair? Should the other guy not want to do this job?
You must be shit at your job if you aren’t getting paid any better after 6 years. I think this may be where your resentment is coming from.
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Why are you asking about school teacher’s salary on a sports forum? Are you mildly retarded? Fuck off for yourself you thick cunt.
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Ok. I suppose this is the best answer so far then.
May I venture to ask why the Union feel teachers are entitled to pay rises that are greater than inflation? Other than the ability to hold an industrial dispute (ie extortion).
I didn’t mean to upset you. This is the Current Affairs category. Click on to “all categories” and you’ll see others too. If you are less upset by discussion around sports, go in to the sports category and stay in there.
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No you may not. Because it’s a stupid question. Why do the government Feel teachers are entitled to “pay rises”?
I do it exactly as well as the other guy. Same number of responsibilities, same product, and the trades I’m dealing with feel as though they are getting just as good a service from him as they are from me. Can you see the analogy? Look closely.
I understand if the invitation to offer insult instead of a meaningful intellectual contribution is too great.
Why do the governments and unions feel that teachers are entitled to pay rises?
This is the exact same question as the OP. Feel free to attempt an answer at either, or feel free to ignore the thread if it’s stupidity is above/below your threshold. Thanks.
So far:
Because the Union / Government thinks it’s fair or a good idea.
Because of inflation.
Because they don’t get enough pay in the first place.
What examples are there of other professions where the above would present a strong argument for negotiating a pay rise?
Did you not get enough points for primary teaching?
You’re still on Ireland’s premier sports forum and the fact that you expect an answer to the ridiculous question you are posing on Ireland’s premier sports forum speaks volumes about your IQ levels.
Ok. Appreciate this is a sports forum, and the topic might not be at the peak of your interest. Don’t worry about my IQ levels, or the severity of my retardation, just have a go at answering the question. If it’s too provocative, pop back into the sports category and hang out there. Cheers.
What the fuck would anyone on here know about school teachers? Afaik, bar @Mullach_Ide, there ain’t a teacher on this board.
A more pressing question is how do they get figs into the figrolls?
If that glasagusban cunt would just stop replying then perhaps this thread could drop into the dregs with the rest, and we could get back to laying it into those German and Polack cunts.
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I’m not sure how many points Primary Teaching needs. Neither am I sure how this relates to the question. I admit, this ol’ banter is fun, but it would be good to have meaningful attempt at discussing the subject query. So far there seems to be a significant mental challenge to differentiate pay and pay rise. Here’s what I just thought of while sat peeing on the pot. Let’s see if I can nudge the topic along:
In this very necessary service, one in which there is minimal progression in role or responsibility, no definable need to improve quality or quantity of output, there needs to be substantial incentives for people to join the profession, and also to retain them in it. The argument for is not one of deservedness, it is one of incentive.
Does anyone want to adopt that stance and take this topic forward?