Why do teachers get pay rises

[Tusa_Mise]

I don’t know much. Hence the OP.

[Tusa_Mise]

Pretty sure there is already a thread for that.

[anon61956325]

I don’t know much, but I know I love you, and that may be all I need to know…

[myboyblue]

A perfect post to sign out on.

Looking in your eyes, I’m looking in your big brown eyes, and I’ve got this to say to you…

[Mac]

@Tusa_Mise

I’m not sure how many points Primary Teaching needs. Neither am I sure how this relates to the question. I admit, this ol’ banter is fun, but it would be good to have meaningful attempt at discussing the subject query. So far there seems to be a significant mental challenge to differentiate pay and pay rise. Here’s what I just thought of while sat peeing on the pot. Let’s see if I can nudge the topic along:

In this very necessary service, one in which there is minimal progression in role or responsibility, no definable need to improve quality or quantity of output, there needs to be substantial incentives for people to join the profession, and also to retain them in it. The argument for is not one of deservedness, it is one of incentive.

Does anyone want to adopt that stance and take this topic forward?

Teachers usually take on more responsibility the longer they’re working for e.g. becoming a class tutor or a year head. This additional responsibility comes with the reward of an increased pay, like in most other jobs. Hope that clarifies your original question.

[anon61956325]

Yard duty deserves to be highly paid.

[Tusa_Mise]

Ah, ok. So the teachers who don’t become class tutors / year heads, only get raises in line with inflation?

[Mac]

@Tusa_Mise

Ah, ok. So the teachers who don’t become class tutors / year heads, only get raises in line with inflation?

I’m not familiar with the inner workings of the teachers payscale but I’m fairly sure that every teacher at some point becomes a class tutor or year head unless they’re fresh out of college or completely stone useless.

Have you any interest in any other topics other than demystifying the teachers pay rise saga?

[Fagan_ODowd]

@Tusa_Mise

…and other awkward questions we hasten to ask at dinner parties.

S’pose the title’s a fair starting point. I’m sure there must be a reason, I’d just like it explained to me; a humble-minded lass who’s very apparently ignorant as to how “career progression” works in this very important profession.

Do they have more responsibility? ie larger classes?
Do they perform better? ie better average results in their classes?

Meas.

Fuck off with your dinner parties and fuck off with pretending to be a “lass”. To sum up, fuck off.

[glasagusban]

I think he’s talking about increments. Which are a part of pretty much all public service positions. It also appears he is a bit dukl

[Tusa_Mise]

Yes, but I normally reply under my other alias. Under this new one, you’ll see me discuss rationale, (as I’m sure you noticed this topic only barely amounted to an experiment in), superstition, anything economics, and some things politics.

Meas.

[myboyblue]

Ah fuck off, fuck right off.

[Tusa_Mise]

I must say, it’s far from dinner parties I was raised. And I apologise about the “lass” confusion, this is an anonymous forum, I didn’t actually mean to offer any insight into my gender. The OP is edited.

Probably won’t fuck off though, so no harm in just shticking me on the ignore list if I’m upsetting you.

All the best.

[Fagan_ODowd]

@Tusa_Mise

I must say, it’s far from dinner parties I was raised. And I apologise about the “lass” confusion, this is an anonymous forum, I didn’t actually mean to offer any insight into my gender. The OP is edited.

Probably won’t fuck off though, so no harm in just shticking me on the ignore list if I’m upsetting you.

All the best.

You aren’t upsetting me. You are a mild irritant. A bit like an itchy arse.

[Tusa_Mise]

Oh, do you really think that is unusual in here then?

It would be good if certain folk relaxed their concern with my IQ, general intellectual capacity, ability to perform at my job, my gender, my history within TFK etc. Just have a go at answering the question! Demonstrate a clear, rational argument. Or not!

Anyway, off to stir up a feed. Something spicy.

[Mullach_Ide]

@ChocolateMice

What the fuck would anyone on here know about school teachers? Afaik, bar @Mullach_Ide, there ain’t a teacher on this board.

A more pressing question is how do they get figs into the figrolls?

Huh?

[Appendage]

@Rocko make this thread a sticky.

[anon61956325]

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I saw some online petition doing the rounds about teachers wanting equal pay… the bastards some of the best paid in Europe… Who the fuck are they to think they deserve a pay rise?

[Juhniallio]

I presume it’s equal pay for the new teachers who earn way less than their colleagues.

[anon61956325]

Who gives a fuck? Why do teachers get pay rises?