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If you cant pay we’ll take your tv, phone or first born as collateral until you can fix us up.

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:scream: .christ

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sure you’re deciding what should be legal and illegal as well. Is it not control if you agree with it?

we’ll legalize E’s and Blow but not Heroin, that’s yukky. What about crystal meth, no we’ll leave them have that and push it on the streets

Some times you have to protect people from themselves and others … who picks up the pieces when people are suffering mentally/ physically from drug taking/ addiction? or crime to fund drug taking? Or over dose and so on … it’s not all fuzzy wuzzy i’m high lets hug … there’s very serious health consequences to drug taking.

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Bizarre post. I don’t support criminalising drug users at all, I support the exact opposite. But sure argue with a straw man if it makes you happy.

I’m lucky enough that I was able to cut out drugs early - before they became an addiction - but I recognise that this will not be the case for many people.

Funnily enough it seems to me that there’s a significant crossover between the people who see no problem with putting millions of black people behind bars - for right wing culture war reasons - and the people who think that simplistic “legalise all drugs” ideas - which are a different part of the right wing kulturkampf - are the answer.

governments are running at a couple of 100m deficit from the cost of drink and fags alone, in countries where they can be bothered to deal with the effects.

Throw in coke and a few more onto that and what will the deficit look like? Who’ll pay it? What about countries that can’t afford healthcare?

Legalisation is a much more common policy amongst American Democrats than Republicans. It was the Democrats who legalised in Colorado.

Yes. But legalisation of what?

It’s a perfectly reasonable point of view that middle aged politicians indulging themselves with subsidized alcohol, whilst legislating to keep cannibis use, a far less harmful drug by any metric, and an entirely naturally occurring product which doesn’t require wholesale treatment and modification to make it accessible, a criminal offence, is utter hypocrisy.

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You’re getting there. Treat it as a public health issue then, not a criminal justice issue.

Who here is arguing that cannabis use should be a criminal offence?

My understanding is that is that which is “more harmful” is very much up for debate. And it’s a sort of apples v oranges comparison. Alcohol is easier too get than orange juice, and cheaper. There are currently significant barriers to obtaining cannabis.

I mean which is worse? Alcohol or cigarettes? You see you’re not comparing like with like in terms of harm. The nature of the harm is different. One encompasses short term harm as well as long term harm, the other encompasses only long term harm.

Poisonous mushrooms are an entirely naturally occurring product. Should we sell them too on that basis? Empty soundbytes like calling something “an entirely naturally occurring product” come across a lot like the zombie Ivermectin cultists.

You propose to make the public health issue worse.

Classic Sid strawmanning here.
You can buy bleach Sid perfectly legally. That’s poisonous.

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Yeah but nobody suggests you drink it, apart from Donald Trump.

Your answer is straight out of the “logical” playbook of the US gun nut lobby who sarcastically scream “if you want guns banned why are you not calling for cars to be banned too?” after some 4Chan bot sprays a classroom with an AR-15.

That’s your view. I disagree. I think the problems are currently worse because of prohibition.

Prohibition has failed. Utterly and repeatedly. You want more of the same. That’s silly.

Legalisation of cannabis is on the way. I think that mdma should follow. And on balance, I think less harm would arise out of legalisation of cocaine than currently occurs under prohibition.

There will be problems with any approach.

Sigh. I’m not getting dragged into this.

I agree, once you only took it twice or three times a year with a good break in between

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Flatty made a fairly reasonable point. If you don’t agree with it you could discuss it rather than blasting back with all the standard loaded language.