Another outrageous lie.
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The main issue is the foreigners, mainly the Eastern Europeans. Theyāve been skirting around saying it up to now but I notice theyāve been far more revealing on it over the past couple of weeks.
The exact statistics from the last few months have been posted up in recent days.
TreatyStones Le Pen chimes in.
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Iāve eaten manys a ādinnerā in auld bachelor farmers houses after hay/silage season,it would take some lad with Ebola to bother me at this stage.
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Nope. There have been no exact statistics. Just multiple outrageous lies from you, never corroborated.
If so, at least they may have some excuse, they didnāt receive the messaging or whatever. Itās the irrational apes we should have a problem with.
Thats a lovely turn of phrase
Oh look, the class Fluvio tactic of saying that simple facts are lies and shouting it over and over again until you nearly believe it yourself. You just have to add in some unrelated whataboutery now.
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The vaccination rates amongst the various populations are mirroring the vaccination rates in their home country, so itās not so much that they arenāt getting the message, they are just reacting in a similar manner to the rest of the people of their nationality.
But yes perhaps the government do need targeted online campaigns on whatever digital platforms they get their news from.
A guy in the Irish times had a column about them recently, he wrote a book on them, it was an insightful look into the āmindsā of the anti-vaxxers.
Are there many foreigners in the ICU
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The exact statistical amount is āa fair shareā
Blaming foreigners is a cop out. We need to stop tolerating morons.
Well there is that angle as well.
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Bit rough on @TreatyStones ,so fines/arrests for locals and a pat on the back for foreigners
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Thatās definitely not the rationale in most peopleās heads the average older person on the street definitely thinks they are a bigger danger to others. You even said it yourself earlier when asking batigol if his parents would like to sit beside a vaccinated person. It actually makes negligible difference to them.
It goes back to a huge element of the Irish response to this which is both a positive and a negative. Itās hugely based on emotion and there is no real debate on the rights and wrongs of certain restrictions etc. Itās why they can introduce the most recent arbitrary rules on hospitality with no science or evidence behind them and still have massive public support. Even the masks on small kids thing. There is surely evidence based on masked and unmasked secondary school populations they could use but they donāt even need to everyone just rows in regardless.
No transparency either around cases, hospitalisations, deaths in terms of age where they caught it etc.
This has worked great so far to keep the vast bulk of us pulling together but the opposition is growing.
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Another example to back up my point above about lack of transparency
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I think vulnerable people are quite aware that the unvaccinated are the biggest danger currently, clogging up the hospital beds in quite unreasonable numbers, for those reasons Iām sure theyād rather not share a table in a pub with them in many cases
No I think most of them think they have more chance of catching it off them as it hasnāt been clearly explained that this isnāt really the case. All in all Iām on the same side of the debate as you I think. I just think the lack of transparency and contradictory advice that has worked well up to now in keeping people on board is slowly going to come apart at the seams as time goes on. Thats mostly because of the completely confusing nature of the virus where absolutely nothing is straightforward.
Who are all the unvaccinated in hospitals Iād love to know? They couldnāt be old as they are almost 100pc jabbed. Are they people who canāt take it maybe? People who are already long term sick? It would be great to have some clear details but i can only imagine that might undermine the message.
Unlike other lads I wouldnāt mind being proved wrong on this Iād prefer the news to be positive for the pro vaccine side.
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