on the first day he won the champions league⌠oh wait he didnât
on the second day he won the european championshipâŚoh wait he didnât
on the third day he won the world cupâŚoh wait he didnât
on the fourth day he won european footballer of the yearâŚoh wait he didnât
on the fifth day he won world player of the yearâŚoh wait he didnât on the 6 th day he was listed in peleâs top 100 players in the worldâŚoh wait he didnât
and on the sabbath he scored a goal against reggina to thunderous ejaculations from flano and bandage
some god alright:D[/quote]
Come on now Art - that is hardly a worthy âawardâ. I think Pele had a woman in it as well as El Hadji Diouf.
[quote=âThe Pukeâ]So by your logic farmer Fernando Torres isnât as good as Etoâo because he hasnât won a champions league medalâŚThe Juventus and Inter teams he was at were above average to good teams and not at the same level as this current Barcelona teamâŚI donât think Ibra can be solely blamed for their lack of successâŚ
Raul was superb for Real Madrid in Europe at teh start of the decade when Madrid had a super team but anytime I have seem him play for Real in Europe over the past 3 or 4 years he has been shite but I donât see you writting him offâŚ[/quote]
[quote=âThe Pukeâ]So by your logic farmer Fernando Torres isnât as good as Etoâo because he hasnât won a champions league medalâŚThe Juventus and Inter teams he was at were above average to good teams and not at the same level as this current Barcelona teamâŚI donât think Ibra can be solely blamed for their lack of successâŚ
Raul was superb for Real Madrid in Europe at teh start of the decade when Madrid had a super team but anytime I have seem him play for Real in Europe over the past 3 or 4 years he has been shite but I donât see you writting him offâŚ[/quote]
Itâs a patently ridiculous argument from him, Puke. Wouldnât waste my time using logic when youâre dealing with the likes of Farmer and Fooley.
[quote=âThe Pukeâ]So by your logic farmer Fernando Torres isnât as good as Etoâo because he hasnât won a champions league medalâŚThe Juventus and Inter teams he was at were above average to good teams and not at the same level as this current Barcelona teamâŚI donât think Ibra can be solely blamed for their lack of successâŚ
Raul was superb for Real Madrid in Europe at teh start of the decade when Madrid had a super team but anytime I have seem him play for Real in Europe over the past 3 or 4 years he has been shite but I donât see you writting him offâŚ[/quote]
The difference though Puke is that Torres is a much superior player to Ibramhimovic. He has also delivered on the European stage with goals in big games, Chelsea in the semis in 2008, Arsenal in the quarters the same year, Chelsea in the quarters in 2009. He has also won a European Championship scoring the winning goal in the final.
Raul is the top scorer in the CL. Sure he is not as good as he was, I donât ever think I said he was, but he has done it in the past.
I cannot recall Ibrahimovic delivering at all on the European stage.
[quote=âfarmerinthecityâ]The difference though Puke is that Torres is a much superior player to Ibramhimovic. He has also delivered on the European stage with goals in big games, Chelsea in the semis in 2008, Arsenal in the quarters the same year, Chelsea in the quarters in 2009. He has also won a European Championship scoring the winning goal in the final.
Raul is the top scorer in the CL. Sure he is not as good as he was, I donât ever think I said he was, but he has done it in the past.
I cannot recall Ibrahimovic delivering at all on the European stage.[/quote]
He has done nothing on a European Stage. Thatâs it really.[/quote]
Heâs scored goals in the World Cup, Euros and in European club competition, as well as being prolific in domestic leagues and creates a barrel load of chances too. But carry on.
I go by his record. I saw him play in the flesh against Liverpool in 2008 and he was very poor. He never seemed to deliver for a top class player on the biggest stage.
I remember watching Italian football on Network 2 and Van Basten was playing awful. He was wearing new boots and went over and changed back to his old ones about 50 minutes in. He then promptly scored a hat-track. Quality stuff.
[quote=âfarmerinthecityâ]You canât place much emphasis on that.
I go by his record. I saw him play in the flesh against Liverpool in 2008 and he was very poor. He never seemed to deliver for a top class player on the biggest stage.
Surely you can accept that?[/quote]
You saw him play in the flesh once and he was poor.
The auld Monday night roundup show, a different class that was. The scoreline graphics would come up at the side of the tv like in the World Cup. Brilliant. MNS of a slightly different type