2021 All Ireland Football-Covid is a cod tyrone style

[binkybarnes]

@maroonandwhite

I was right for years, sure 6 bought all Irelands and how many Leinster’s prove it! Thankfully an honest rural team showed heart beats the bank eventually

You were never right in your life

[maroonandwhite]

So no counter argument bar shurrup wil yiz. This is more embarrassing that Paul Flynn soiling himself on air.

[binkybarnes]

@maroonandwhite

So no counter argument bar shurrup wil yiz. This is more embarrassing that Paul Flynn soiling himself on air.

Counter argument? You predicted 20 on a row and the death of football. Counter argument me hole

[maroonandwhite]

@binkybarnes

You predicted 20 on a row

Where was this?

[Bisto]

@maroonandwhite

On the match and the blue book coming unbound.

It’s clear in hindsight that dublins success came down to two factors. Professional funding, plus Jim Gavin. Both were needed, Jim Gavin isn’t winning all Ireland’s with Roscommon, but his guidance and gameplan was the key, as he had the raw materials to implement it. From what I know of him Gavin seems to be a genius, as I wrote elsewhere more akin to Belichick or John Wooden than a standard gaa manager. I asked someone in the Dublin camp at the start of last year what the fall off would be from Gavin to Dessie and the reply was ‘massive and irreversible’ I thought that was wrong, the systems and standards he had in place would endure but it was entirely correct. Gavin had essentially cracked football, with scripted plays and selflessness drummed into them. He needed great athletes with pro level preparation to do it and got that.

It wasn’t the conditioning that let them down last weekend, it was hunger, Mayo are fairly limited but Dublin, for the first time in years, just didn’t want to be there. Hard to see dessie turn that around, he’s in the unenviable position of first manager after a legend and I dont think he has what it takes.

I thought the funding, the residue of gavin plus the paucity of opposition would keep Dublin up there for years (and it will in Leinster) but I forgot how wasteful they have always been. They have always had a wealth of advantages compared to all other counties, but needed to be treated as a special project by the gaa and the government to win titles. Which is hard to believe. Contrast to Limerick, who have none of dublins advantages but used proper funding to put structures in place and with some rural ingenuity become successful at a far more difficult game.

A final shout out to my old buddy Ewan, we’ve been telling the truth for years, me on here, you stealing a lot of my arguments and using them on Twitter with your own, but the worm has turned, public opinion has sided against injustice, enjoy it.

Jesus Christ … that is some bollox … even for you… did you prepare it last year and then saved it when Dubs won under Farrell?

[maroonandwhite]

Get off the heroin and robbing old peoples houses and invest time in reading comprehension.

[Bisto]

@maroonandwhite

It’s clear in hindsight that dublins success came down to two factors. Professional funding, plus Jim Gavin

@maroonandwhite

It wasn’t the conditioning that let them down last weekend, it was hunger

@maroonandwhite

and invest time in reading comprehension.

so is it 2 or 3 factors mister reading comprehension…you’re some plum …

[maroonandwhite]

The top two was the reason for Dublin’s success over the past few years, mainly funding.

The third was what let them down last weekend.

Jesus. Put down the heroin will you.

[Bisto]

@maroonandwhite

The top two was the reason for Dublin’s success over the past few years, mainly funding.

The third was what let them down last weekend.

Jesus. Put down the heroin will you.

So if they had the third would they have been successful ?

[maroonandwhite]

If they had Gavin there then yes. The smiley faces aren’t the compelling arguments you think. Listen the soccer’s back don’t worry about understanding the ‘gah’ for a while

[binkybarnes]

@maroonandwhite

The top two was the reason for Dublin’s success over the past few years, mainly funding.

The top two were the reason, Mr Comprehension

[maroonandwhite]

No counter argument from the skanger, so hang your dreams on a typo. Time to go for boxers there flynner.

[binkybarnes]

@maroonandwhite

No counter argument from the skanger, so hang your dreams on a typo.

You were the one sneering about reading ability and comprehension.

You’ve made no argument so a counter argument is unnecessary

[maroonandwhite]

@binkybarnes

You’ve made no argument so a counter argument is unnecessary

Again, I set it out. Money mainly and Jim Gavin made them successful. Dubliners are generally useless (any country person will quietly admit this) so without all that help they’d eventually flounder. Imagine any other county had all that help.

Where did I say they’d win 20 in a row by the way, you were repeating earlier that I said that?

[Bisto]

The fact Your ‘argument ‘ makes no reference to the players Dublin have lost since Gavin went is fcukin ridiculous … some of the best players of their generation …

[binkybarnes]

@maroonandwhite

Again, I set it out. Money mainly and Jim Gavin made them successful. Dubliners are generally useless (any country person will quietly admit this) so without all that help they’d eventually flounder. Imagine any other county had all that help.

We get funding proportionate to our population which is used to help increase participation which it has done.

Jim Gavin didn’t make us great though he helped. Alan Brogan, Bernard Brogan, Diarmuid Connolly, Brian Fenton, Jack Mccaffrey, James McCarthy, Stephen Cluxton, Con O Callaghan, Paul Flynn and quite a few more made us great.

Your never ending spewing of racist bile aimed at Dublin people is getting tiresome.

[Cheasty]

@maroonandwhite is beating @binkybarnes and @Bisto up a stick here. The two Dublin lads are making well thought out, factual points but when @maroonandwhite hits back with “stop robbing old people’s houses you heroin addicts” it’s a complete knockout.

Top, top debating from the exceedingly useful and intelligent Galway man.

[flutehook]

Are you living in the USA? Either way you have no idea of the impact or role of funding on Dublin GAA. The aim of the funding* was to increase participation and it funded GPOs to go into local schools to foster interest and participation in GAA; effectively to replace the role that was traditionally done by male National Teachers.

In this regard it has been successful - too successful in ways as clubs struggled to provide the playing and coaching infrastructure to cope with the numbers. Massive efforts trying to get parents from a non-GAA (or non-sporting) background skilled up to develop youngsters’ skills with mixed results.

At a county level Dublin Co Board may have questions to answer in relation to development of new clubs; likes of Crokes and Na Fianna having multiple teams at same age levels while others are struggling to field.

Is there scope for new clubs in south or west Dublin to deal with these numbers - access to playing facilities is an issue though, ask Kevins or Cuala. A lad from Na Fianna told me a couple of years ago that they were paying €25k p.a. to rent pitches for training alone, the downside of increased participation in ways. Ironically, some amalgamations are probably required in the Northside because of demographics but increased housing developments may ameliorate this in time.

Bottom line in my experience is that funding is doing some things right but has created issues for clubs and has had little direct impact on the 6-in-a-row, most whom would have featured anyways.

• Success brings additional funding from the likes of hydration partners, gents outfitters etc. but that’s a different discussion

[maroonandwhite]

@binkybarnes

racist bile aimed at Dublin people

Good lord. No argument whatsoever so Dubliners are now a race

[myboyblue]

The south side 4x4s are circling