Coronavirus - Here for life (In high population density areas)

[Batigol]

Agreed. There doesn’t appear to have been a huge bump in suicide.

There is a hell of a lot more to mental health issues than just suicide stats though. A lot of people that I know have said there are feeling down/bored/ sick of it etc. Lockdowns are ruining a lot of people’s quality of life

[Copper_pipe]

@Copper_pipe

Number of confirmed cases in hospital up to 1151 from 1022

Number of confirmed cases in hospital up to 1285 from 1151

[cluaindiuic]

I’ve seen the total unofficial suicide stats from 2020.

I can confirm, based on the same comparison of 2019 data, that there has been less suicides in 2020 than 2019.

[glenshane]

@backinatracksuit

but the stats don’t back it up, have you something solid on it?

@backinatracksuit

I was looking at it a while back, to date there doesn’t seem to have been a significant increase in suicide anywhere,
I don’t wish to make light of the mental health problems caused by this but I don’t like suicide ‘stats’ being used in this way

Ffs tracksuit. You’re insisting on stats to “back it up” because you dont like to see stats used in this way, while making some vague reference to a supposed report you supposedly read to make your argument.
Sanctimony, hypocrisy and bullshit in the space of a few lines. You were made for a career in politics.

[glenshane]

@Julio_Geordio

The CSO only release them at year end for some reason

Because cause of death takes a long time to establish…crime, misadventure etc all have to be ruled out etc

[cluaindiuic]

@cluaindiuic

I’ve seen the total unofficial suicide stats from 2020.

I can confirm, based on the same comparison of 2019 data, that there has been less suicides in 2020 than 2019.

I would caveat that to reiterate a point I made a couple of months ago.

@cluaindiuic

My biggest concern in the area of mental health with regard to this lockdown is the guy who lost his livelihood. Facing into winter, can’t afford Christmas. Feels like a failure, has a disastrous Christmas, hits January, SAD kicks in and he sees nothing positive to come. And there’s going to be tens of thousands of them in variations of that position scattered across towns and villages throughout the country on a scale that dwarfs previous years. I’d really stress to any of ye that if ye have people important to you who are trending like I’m describing above, you have to be overactive in the next 3 months to make sure they can hold it all together.

We’re entering a perfect storm for mental health so please be extra vigilant of the people in your life that are at risk. Similarly what I said before about anyone with the faintest suggestion of fraction of a hint of a cancer issue.

@cluaindiuic

You just can’t wait. Drag them, kicking and screaming, to a doctor. It’s too early to know what the impact will be but from the person I talked to in the area of cancer services in Ireland they’re deeply concerned with people arriving later than usual to be diagnosed. The raw numbers around cancer diagnoses would possibly suggest that numbers are marginally down but the late diagnoses are the real disaster they’re seeing. Waiting just a few weeks can turn a treatable illness into a terminal illness and diagnoses are later than normal this year so far.

If there’s 2 things to take from this.

1. Check in on those who are having it rough. If you are the one in the rough spot reach out for help.
2. The rules of cancer detection have not changed. Earlier the better. Do not wait. Do not allow anyone to wait.

Nothing here has changed. We’ve a hard few months ahead.
Be a leader in your home and community.

[flattythehurdler]

[Copper_pipe]

[glasagusban]

@The_Most_Infamous

People are dying mate - suicide and overdoses are through the roof.

@cluaindiuic

I’ve seen the total unofficial suicide stats from 2020.

I can confirm, based on the same comparison of 2019 data, that there has been less suicides in 2020 than 2019.

@The_Most_Infamous, do you other data on this?

[Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy]

@Julio_Geordio

@Lazarus

You are saying the hospitals are making it all up?
Maybe you are right, maybe they need to get a hold of themselves

My understanding is that hospitals are indeed at breaking point, not because of covid directly, there are less people on trolleys than usual (and while elective procedures have been cancelled they always are around this time of the year). They are under pressure the same as they always are in a system lacking the capacity to cope.
But what’s killing them is staff being close contacts and having to isolate. They are seriously short handed. They closed a ward in UHL the other day because they didn’t have the staff to man it.
Think about that for a second, complaining about capacity and closing a ward. Meanwhile there are supposedly thousands of qualified people who answered the HSE call out, retired nurses, nurses who’d packed it in, people who came home etc etc. But there’s so much red tape around getting them back in the system it’s basically impossible to hire them, those that have got through the process are being told they’ll be hired through third party companies on shite contracts with no job security or guaranteed hours.
Meanwhile we’ve written another blank cheque to the private hospitals.

By companies handed million euro contracts with family links to FG.

[glasagusban]

@Heyyoubehindthebushes

Many will die but we won’t have to wait for vaccine. OIUTF

In fairness, would you ever cop on and calm down.

Are you genuinely happy for many to die because you can’t hack a couple more months of restrictions? What does that say about you?

[Heyyoubehindthebushes]

We have no choice fear fear fear

[Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy]

If you hung yourself with Covid. Are you a Covid death?

[glasagusban]

What are you raving about?

[Heyyoubehindthebushes]

OIUTF cornavirus pints. Did I tell you its a cod.

Did I tell you I was piss taking, my original statement was ludicrous

[backinatracksuit]

You’re right, I didn’t fully think through what I was saying, it’s the made up hearsay stats that I object to, if there was a frightening rise in suicide for the past 9 months then I believe it’s relevant. I don’t believe that to have been the case

[carryharry]

@glenshane

Why are healthy staff being isolated etc.

[glenshane]

@backinatracksuit

You’re righ

Steady on now!

I’d take a punt and say the work related and school bullying suicides have abated while the lockdown suicides have taken up the slack.

Clare craig on Twitter was using uk office of national statistics to show the spike in overdose and alcohol related ambulance call outs. They either spiked or skyrocketed, I dont have the exact figures to hand.

[glenshane]

Because they test positive, repeatedly in some cases

[carryharry]

It’s my belief that Hospital staff aren’t exclusively using PCR tests though…