Having a dig at public servants is standard.
No I donāt think so.
Youāre suggesting weāll have so much on hand we should just lash it out.
First I donāt think that will be the case and second I donāt think we will have really big amounts on hand for some months yet.
As of now we have a limited amount of doses, I wouldnāt want to waste any by not ensuring they are used correctly. My understanding is that this means the second dose has to be administered within the correct time frame or else the effects are not successful or long lasting.
When big numbers of supply are on hand the programme will increase in size and big numbers of people will get vaccinated. It will take a couple of months to hit that though.
Lads I had a more solid vaccination plan with a better chance of success drawn up in 5 minutes on the bog for the lads I argue with on the Internet.
We have 10s of government ministers, top civil servants and advisers getting paid ā¬100k per year working on this. 3 weeks after the first pallet and its a shambles.
Ireland never changes
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And highly encouraged. Its more fun when you say it to their face too.
No, Iām suggesting any that are on hand should be used immediately. Iāve no belief weāll have so much to hand but any we do, should be used immediately
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Ok.
Iām saying that while supplies are limited it is better to plan to ensure it is used successfully rather than immediately.
Why canāt you have both says you, but if itās a choice between fast or correct, Iād go with the latter.
Not necessarily, they werenāt offered the opportunity afaik.
But they should have been vaccinated from the get go and days off thrown out if needs be.
The hospitals were empty until 2 weeks ago.
It is pathetic that we left vaccines in the freezer for several days. Again, itās not treating this like the emergency it is.
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Fact the plans to vaccinate arenāt already clearly.in place for even the moderate amount we have after months and months to plan speaks volumes.
Is the current pace correct so?
Pretty easy for you to demand that peopleās days off be cancelled. After the year theyāve been through. As if it would make a difference. Sunday independenting harder than ever.
It really is pathetic.
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I recall a post from you on the 27th December saying the very same thing.
It seems to only be an emergency when HSE/NPHET are giving out the instructions to the public, closing businesses and schools. Every day is vital they say.
The demand for urgency is characterised as Iāll informed and mean spirited when the public asks why vaccine roll out by HSE /NPHET is not given the same emergency status. Sure weāll catch up.
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I thought the vaccine just stopped you getting very sick. You can still spread it canāt you?
Would you stop.
The hospitals were not actually particularly busy this year. As discussed over and over, the hospitals were far from being overran in March and April. The autumn into Christmas was the quietest on record.
There were c. 10k doses available to us early on that we left in the freezer. It would not have taken much to distribute them. They should have gone out early and quickly, particularly to ICU staff that could be facing a tsunami in a matter of weeks - which is actually what has eventuated.
This should have been planned for months in advance. Instead the vaccine task force really only got up and running when they vaccine trials were shown to be positive. The excuses we saw ranged from building up supply to consent forms. This was directly criticised by the Medical Council, who are all frontline workers btw, so donāt give me this nonsense about it being attack on the frontline.
I have sympathy with trying to ensure supply and us being at the whims of the EU supply chain. However, we were not talking about a mass rollout. We were talking about a rollout to a relatively tiny subsection of the population where the need is greatest. And if they werenāt available for the vaccine - it should have gone to nursing homes on day one - one nursing home in Laois and one in Dundrum are reporting huge numbers of deaths in the last two weeks. Two of our biggest issues are deaths in nursing homes and infections among the front line, it is the pareto principle in action.
If you were kicking around saying āwe need herd immunity, a couple of days donāt make a differenceā, as it seems we were, then it doesnāt make a difference. If you look at the actual problems we have, then it does.
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They donāt know as they didnāt test it but if it stops you getting sick then people without symptoms spread it less/not at all.
Saying that it was pathetic that we werenāt already vaccinating? Yes, as a donkey could see the case load and what was coming for hospitals.
At the time, we werenāt given reasons. The excuses since were pathetic. They were simply not ready and too many people were off to administer it.
Again, this is exactly a criticism the frontline gave via the Medical Council. HSE admins and public service back office admin hiding behind the frontline are funny.
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We still have no plan - thatās the issue. But lookit - we cant jump up and down about these things despite them having months to put a plan in place. Theyāll be done at some point.
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my 11-year-old daughter wants a Labrador (Pup).
Loads of public servants starting on 24k struggling.
They donāt have data on this yet apparently, which is understandable. I thought that it stops you getting it, and Iāve heard commentators say that itās reasonable to assume it stops you spreading it, or at least greatly reduces the risk of you spreading it.
Are you or your missus house proud or garden proud?
Park that for a while, be prepared to buy some new furniture and put all food up very high
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