Coronavirus Thread (Markey hates Immigrants )

[Tierneevin1979]

The biggest issue is that most scientists in this field are scared shitless of losing their funding, and frankly many of them are compromised.

[Cheasty]

@Heyyoubehindthebushes

So your not interested in the facts that we know and will follow the offical line of the CCP? Far enough mate.

This isn’t a conspiracy and it is snow finally getting taken seriously like it should have in 2020. But look the orange man said it first so it’s wrong and we all know Orange man bad

OK. I’m not interested in the facts and am a shill for the Chinese Communist Party. Whatever you say.

[Tierneevin1979]

TFK is lucky to have me.

[Tierneevin1979]

Honestly at last.

[Cheasty]

@Tierneevin1979

The biggest issue is that most scientists in this field are scared shitless of losing their funding, and frankly many of them are compromised.

And of course there would no issue at all with US right-wing politicians and media trying to spread a narrative for their own gain. None at all.

[Tierneevin1979]

The calls for a new investigation are from very credible scientists (including Ralph Baric who collaborated with the WIV on GOF research), who now feel safer speaking out as they are not being falsely accused of being Trump supporters like in 2020. The evidence that has been uncovered in the past year is just too significant to ignore. There is about a one in a trillion chance this virus came from a zoonotic source.

[Cheasty]

You said earlier there was no evidence.

Now suddenly there’s overwhelming evidence, and the chances are “one in a trillion” that you’re not right.

You’re tying yourself up in knots.

The mere manner of the way you put your argument across is an obvious giveaway that you haven’t a bull’s notion what you’re on about.

Nobody who has a genuine interest in finding out the truth about such a question uses such language.

[Tierneevin1979]

Circumstantial evidence, and it’s overwhelming. There is no direct evidence to support either hypothesis.
You have zero knowledge of the science involved mate, stop embarrassing yourself.

[Cheasty]

And neither do you.

[Tierneevin1979]

But I do, and if you had any knowledge of science you would know this.

[Cheasty]

@Tierneevin1979

But I do, and if you had any knowledge of science you would know this.

Sure.

[Tierneevin1979]

@Cheasty

As has been admitted here, there is no hard evidence at all. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, but until something harder comes along, all it remains is a theory at best.

This confirms my point of you knowing absolutely nothing about science. The opinion of a scientist on a given problem is called a hypothesis, not a theory. No hypothesis is credible unless it has some evidence to support it. A hypothesis only becomes a theory after extensive testing against it’s predictions to both test for agreement with the claims of the hypothesis and more importantly to test that it can be falsified.

All of the evidence points to lab origin, there is zero evidence supporting zoonotic origin.

[Cheasty]

But I don’t claim to know anything about science.

Your little rant there about hypothesis/theory is very needy stuff altogether.

So there’s no evidence, but also it’s a trillion to one shot against.

You genuinely sound like somebody in a pub ranting about the moon landings being faked.

[Tierneevin1979]

There is a ton of evidence. It’s all out there if you want to educate yourself. Start by reading every paper on bat coronaviruses published by the WIV since 2003.

[Cheasty]

OK. I’ll do that. Just like you have.

[Heyyoubehindthebushes]

Look its June 21 not March 20. Knowledge on this disease has grown so much in that time. You can’t continue to stand by the evidence for the origins or public health approach that was said at that time.

[Cheasty]

@Heyyoubehindthebushes

Look its June 21 not March 20. Knowledge on this disease has grown so much in that time. You can’t continue to stand by the evidence for the origins or public health approach that was said at that time.

I’m not really sure what you’re on about. The problem with this forum is lads continue to stick to wrong beliefs out of sheer pigheadedness. I have have very good record of not doing that, probably the best on the forum.

As exemplified by by my treating the UK variant very seriously when the other idiot was constantly saying it was bullshit, also the Indian variant, I correctly anticipated it as a problem very early, some lads still can’t even bring themselves to admit it is.

[Tierneevin1979]

The only thing you have a good record on is lying.

[Cheasty]

@Tierneevin1979

The only thing you have a good record on is lying.

It seems like I’m lying down rent free in your head anyway.

[glenshane]

I’m optimistic that they’ll eventually discover a variant that is less transmissible than the Kent variant